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« Reply #125 on May 24, 2012, 7:51pm »

Ha-ha! It's going to be like the scene in I, Robot where the pasty translucent robots start jumping out of the truck on to the Will Smith character's car to make him lose control, crash, and die. Except it'll be a bus load of expensive, over dressed, dramatic, snobby lawyers flooding Metro's offices with so much paper work that the Metro board almost dies in the paper flood LOL!
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« Reply #126 on May 24, 2012, 10:25pm »

Saw a "No subway under BHHS" Halloween sign tonight at the lawn of a Beverly-Hills-adjacent home. I thought only NFSR had these orange - black Halloween lawn signs.
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« Reply #127 on May 25, 2012, 6:34am »

KTLA had a hit piece in last night's news at 10. The anchor said that Metro approved the subway despite massive opposition from residents and scientists. Korbatov and Antonovich were the only two they showed speaking. They showed the clip from the BH video with the flames.

They didn't mention the years of environmental meetings, directly involving the public. They didn't mention the hundreds of subway supporters who showed up to those meetings. They didn't mention how localized the opposition was. They didn't mention the amount of scientific analysis that went into the decision.

The message was clear: METRO has no regard and no respect for the people. Ugh.
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« Reply #128 on May 25, 2012, 6:52am »

How many lawsuits could BH file against Metro? Only CEQA and NEPA, right? In any case, as long as Metro can prove they have done their due diligence, then BHUSD has no case. I can't wait see how much BHUSD would have to repay Metro for all litigation.
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« Reply #129 on May 25, 2012, 8:27am »


May 25, 2012, 6:34am, metrocenter wrote:
KTLA had a hit piece in last night's news at 10. The anchor said that Metro approved the subway despite massive opposition from residents and scientists. Korbatov and Antonovich were the only two they showed speaking. They showed the clip from the BH video with the flames.


This is one of many reasons why I don't watch KTLA news.
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« Reply #130 on May 25, 2012, 11:08am »

KTTV and KCAL/KCBS weren't much better. Both reported the news but in the narrative framing of BHUSD. But at least they didn't show the fireball video.
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« Reply #131 on May 25, 2012, 2:39pm »

That is so biased, especially what channel 5 did! They are unworthy of respect. Is it sweeps?!?
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« Reply #132 on May 25, 2012, 3:10pm »


May 24, 2012, 3:56pm, K 22 wrote:
Oh, boy.

Let the lawsuits and delays begin.



I would be happy if they started planning/ designing/ digging from Western west to Fairfax or LaCienega.

By the time they reached Beverly Hills, the lawsuits will be over.
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« Reply #133 on May 25, 2012, 5:29pm »


May 25, 2012, 2:39pm, gatewaygent wrote:
That is so biased, especially what channel 5 did! They are unworthy of respect. Is it sweeps?!?

Yes
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« Reply #134 on May 25, 2012, 10:18pm »


May 25, 2012, 3:10pm, James Fujita wrote:

May 24, 2012, 3:56pm, K 22 wrote:
Oh, boy.

Let the lawsuits and delays begin.



I would be happy if they started planning/ designing/ digging from Western west to Fairfax or LaCienega.

By the time they reached Beverly Hills, the lawsuits will be over.


While I would love that and I hope that happens, I believe BH's lawsuit will include complaints over construction at La Cienega. If you look at the letter they sent Metro about the time they decided to request the special hearing, they complained quite vociferously about construction impacts at La Cienega. Specifically, they pulled the bait and switch card, saying they didn't know initially the boring machines would be dropped at La Cienega instead of Fairfax. I think their complaints will be tossed out of court, but I still think they'll be made.
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« Reply #135 on May 26, 2012, 2:36pm »

Guess who's now against subways under high schools. Look at (1:17)

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/video?id=8675962#.T78lNrY6M
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« Reply #136 on May 26, 2012, 5:34pm »


May 26, 2012, 2:36pm, macross287 wrote:
Guess who's now against subways under high schools. Look at (1:17)

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/video?id=8675962#.T78lNrY6M


When your side has people like Damien Goodmon, John Walsh, and Nancy Krasne arguing on behalf of it, you're going to need all the luck in the world. Good grief.
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« Reply #137 on May 26, 2012, 7:15pm »

I came across this interesting article regarding NIMBY-ism today:

http://www.salon.com/2012/05/26/when_the_1_percent_say_no/
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« Reply #138 on May 29, 2012, 9:44am »

Interesting article....

The message board is eerily quite. I wonder what the platoon of lawyers that Beverly Hills hired is scheming?
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« Reply #139 on May 30, 2012, 3:50pm »

And here we go:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/20....er-school.htm l
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« Reply #140 on May 31, 2012, 1:55pm »

This just got personal folks.....a 2nd lawsuit against the Purple Line from...........Beverly Hills. Surprisingly, this lawsuit is not even associated with BHUSD but with the City itself. They're also alleging the EIR is faulty. Is Beverly Hills now the most hated city in America?

http://beverlyhills.patch.com/articles/bh-files-separate-westside-subway-lawsuit
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« Reply #141 on May 31, 2012, 2:07pm »

OK, so first the Beverly Hills Unified School District filed a lawsuit and now the city of Beverly Hills has filed their own lawsuit? Two lawsuits?!? This is ridiculous! Now they're just making a mockery of the justice system!
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« Reply #142 on May 31, 2012, 3:19pm »


May 31, 2012, 2:07pm, gatewaygent wrote:
Now they're just making a mockery of the justice system!
Actually, the system is designed so that anybody can sue anybody else for anything they want. If it is used in that way, is it really making a mockery of the courts?

I mean, you can file suit for whatever you want, and there are mechanisms to throw out dumb lawsuits, and these lawsuits will be subjected to those same mechanisms.
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« Reply #143 on May 31, 2012, 7:29pm »

OK, they're exercising their rights. But two (2) lawsuits? The only things missing now are lawsuits from the various homeowners associations whose areas sit over the tunnel.
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« Reply #144 on Jun 1, 2012, 9:20am »

Damien Goodmon would sue too if he had any money (or a job).
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« Reply #145 on Jun 1, 2012, 10:08am »


May 31, 2012, 7:29pm, gatewaygent wrote:
OK, they're exercising their rights. But two (2) lawsuits? The only things missing now are lawsuits from the various homeowners associations whose areas sit over the tunnel.


Most of the Beverly Hills and West LA homeowner associations have expressed support for the Constellation route. They statement of support were included the EIR.

The issue of school only came up because there was a school board election in Beverly Hills earlier this year. Certain individual decided to make this an "election" issue to drive up turn out. But now she has created a mob, she cannot back down and is going to take the entire school district and the city council down with her.
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« Reply #146 on Jun 1, 2012, 1:49pm »

Ha-ha! There's a lesson to be learned in all this, but why mention it. Let Beverly Hills learn it the hard (and expensive) way. I think that it's been established that wealth and intelligence do not go hand in hand. At least the lawyers will come out smiling LOL!

I wonder what world class cities (Buenos Aires, Mexico City, Japan, Paris, Berlin, etc.), with built out rail/subway lines, would think if they knew of Beverly Hills paranoid reaction to the subway?
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« Reply #147 on Jun 1, 2012, 1:57pm »

See my post in this other thread concerning how different areas of LA County have completely different takes on the importance of rail transit:

http://transittalk.proboards.com/index.c....ead=1186&page=1

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« Reply #148 on Jun 1, 2012, 5:03pm »

Thank you RT. So now it's turned into a convoluted 'You may thank me' fest as they further their political careers. I lived in Mt. Washington when the Pasadena Gold Line was being planned/built. It got so dirty when the elderly were being told "Ambulances will be detained at the rail crossings and you'll die on your way to Huntington Hospital!" All the elderly came to oppose it until Metro decided to trench under Green, Colorado, Union, and Holly. Then it became moot.

This is interesting. So was Beverly Hills feigning support for the Purple Line extension all along and now that they found an out, they're clawing for it so they can walk away as though they tried being reasonable and remain in their 1959 car-topia?
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« Reply #149 on Jun 1, 2012, 5:44pm »

Back in the 1990's when the Metro predecessor was holding meetings about where to run light rail lines, one of their representatives told me that they liked coming to the San Gabriel Valley and felt welcome here, in contrast to the San Fernando Valley, where most of the people who showed up at the meetings treated them like hostile invaders.
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