The Transit Coalition
« Westside Extension Meetings »

Welcome Guest. Please Login or Register.
May 21, 2013, 12:58pm




The Transit Coalition :: Rail Transit :: Metro Red and Purple Lines - Los Angeles to North Hollywood and Mid-Wilshire :: Westside Extension Meetings
« Page 27 of 34 » Jump to page   Go    [Search This Thread] [Share Topic] [Print]
[locked poll] PollPoll Question: Which alignment sounds good to you?
Poll Status:
 This poll was automatically locked on Nov 6, 2008, 1:57pm.

Poll Options:
 You must be logged in to vote in this poll.
Wilshire Corridor via Century City only[********] (5 votes, 20%)
Wilshire Corridor via Grove-Cedars-Century City [****************] (10 votes, 40%)
Wilshire-Santa Monica Blvd Corridor from Hollywood[****************] (10 votes, 40%)

Poll Totals:
 Total Votes: 25
Total Voters: 25
 AuthorTopic: Westside Extension Meetings (Read 28,855 times)
metrocenter
Pro Member
*****
member is offline

[avatar]



Joined: Oct 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,110
Location: Cal Heights, Long Beach, CA
 Re: Westside Extension Meetings
« Reply #650 on Oct 28, 2010, 7:26am »

BTW, please somebody report back from this morning's meeting. (My request for the morning off was denied - my team have a huge project due on Monday.)

Of particular interest: (1) LPAs selected by the Board for both subway projects; (2) speakers in support/opposition to the Century City station; and (3) action taken on Mark Ridley-Thomas' proposal to rewrite/dilute the grade-crossing policy.
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged

I will ride the Expo Line!
LAofAnaheim
Pro Member
*****
member is offline





Joined: Mar 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,117
 Re: Westside Extension Meetings
« Reply #651 on Oct 28, 2010, 8:27am »


Oct 28, 2010, 7:26am, metrocenter wrote:
BTW, please somebody report back from this morning's meeting. (My request for the morning off was denied - my team have a huge project due on Monday.)

Of particular interest: (1) LPAs selected by the Board for both subway projects; (2) speakers in support/opposition to the Century City station; and (3) action taken on Mark Ridley-Thomas' proposal to rewrite/dilute the grade-crossing policy.


Follow the action on Twitter: http://twitter.com/lastreetsblog

and http://twitter.com/blogdowntown

Looks like Zev's motion has passed to study all effects of tunneling....
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged
LAofAnaheim
Pro Member
*****
member is offline





Joined: Mar 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,117
 Re: Westside Extension Meetings
« Reply #652 on Oct 28, 2010, 9:06am »

Sounds like people are stepping up to the Beverly Hills elitists RT @lastreetsblog: "Via Dan Wentzel: What about the psychological impact of selfish, wealthy NIMBYs thwarthing this project for two decades...".

Priceless...
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged
metrocenter
Pro Member
*****
member is offline

[avatar]



Joined: Oct 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,110
Location: Cal Heights, Long Beach, CA
 Re: Westside Extension Meetings
« Reply #653 on Oct 28, 2010, 9:32am »

Listening at work, on the phone (213-922-6045).

LOL at Darrell's line: "I get to be the lead in to John Walsh?" - classic!

John Walsh: "It's crazy -- Beverly Hills sounds like John Walsh!" Yes John, that is crazy. Enjoy your 60-day ban from Metro's public meetings!
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged

I will ride the Expo Line!
Dan Wentzel
Pro Member
*****
member is offline





Joined: Nov 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 514
 Re: Westside Extension Meetings
« Reply #654 on Oct 28, 2010, 9:49am »


Oct 28, 2010, 9:06am, LAofAnaheim wrote:
Sounds like people are stepping up to the Beverly Hills elitists RT @lastreetsblog: "Via Dan Wentzel: What about the psychological impact of selfish, wealthy NIMBYs thwarthing this project for two decades...".

Priceless...


This was in response to someone in Beverly Hills complaining about the psychological effects of the subway being put under Beverly Hills High School.
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged
LAofAnaheim
Pro Member
*****
member is offline





Joined: Mar 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,117
 Re: Westside Extension Meetings
« Reply #655 on Oct 28, 2010, 10:09am »

@Dan Wentzel...were you at the meeting?
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged
Gokhan
Pro Member
*****
member is offline

[avatar]

Bring light-rail back to LA



Joined: Mar 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,990
Location: Palms, LA, CA
 Re: Westside Extension Meetings
« Reply #656 on Oct 28, 2010, 10:17am »

Zev talked about the importance of building the station at Constellation (the entire station would serve Century City as opposed to half of it serving the golf course if built under Santa Monica Blvd), Beverly Hills High School opposition, and safety (hazards of methane). He asked for additional studies of the route options and safety. He said that Beverly Hills is no different than Westwood, where the line will also go under houses, and the safety issue must carefully be studied everywhere.
« Last Edit: Oct 28, 2010, 10:22am by Gokhan »Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged

Rail obstructionists should accept the fact that at-grade rail deserves as much chance as the at-grade automobile.
LAofAnaheim
Pro Member
*****
member is offline





Joined: Mar 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,117
 Re: Westside Extension Meetings
« Reply #657 on Oct 28, 2010, 10:21am »


Oct 28, 2010, 10:17am, Gokhan wrote:
Zev talked about the importance of building the station at Constellation (the entire station would serve Century City as opposed to half of it serving the golf course if built under Santa Monica Blvd), Beverly Hills High School opposition, and safety (hazards of methane). He asked for additional studies of the route options and safety. He said that Beverly Hills is no different than Westwood, where the line will also go under houses, and safety issue must carefully be studied everywhere.


Good job Zev!
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged
Dan Wentzel
Pro Member
*****
member is offline





Joined: Nov 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 514
 Re: Westside Extension Meetings
« Reply #658 on Oct 28, 2010, 10:22am »


Oct 28, 2010, 10:09am, LAofAnaheim wrote:
@Dan Wentzel...were you at the meeting?


Unfortunately not. I am following the tweets.
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged
Gokhan
Pro Member
*****
member is offline

[avatar]

Bring light-rail back to LA



Joined: Mar 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,990
Location: Palms, LA, CA
 Re: Westside Extension Meetings
« Reply #659 on Oct 28, 2010, 10:23am »

He also asked Beverly Hills High School to start talking with them (on their building plans etc.) instead of opposing the project.
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged

Rail obstructionists should accept the fact that at-grade rail deserves as much chance as the at-grade automobile.
Gokhan
Pro Member
*****
member is offline

[avatar]

Bring light-rail back to LA



Joined: Mar 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,990
Location: Palms, LA, CA
 Re: Westside Extension Meetings
« Reply #660 on Oct 28, 2010, 10:24am »

Item moved by Antonio, seconded by Zev, amended as above by Zev, approved unanimously.
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged

Rail obstructionists should accept the fact that at-grade rail deserves as much chance as the at-grade automobile.
metrocenter
Pro Member
*****
member is offline

[avatar]



Joined: Oct 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,110
Location: Cal Heights, Long Beach, CA
 Re: Westside Extension Meetings
« Reply #661 on Oct 28, 2010, 10:25am »

Item 22 - acceptance of the DEIR and the LPA for the Westside Subway Extension - has passed, with Yaroslavsky's amendment. :D

BTW in his final comments, Yaroslavsky stated very clearly that Constellation is better because it is in the center of Century City, as opposed to Santa Monica Blvd, which is on the tangent of Century City.

He also said that if the subway is unsafe under Beverly Hills, then it is unsafe everywhere. His point being: don't worry, it is safe.

This is a historic day, I wish I could've been there.
« Last Edit: Oct 28, 2010, 10:27am by metrocenter »Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged

I will ride the Expo Line!
Justin Walker
Pro Member
*****
member is offline





Joined: Mar 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 505
Location: Los Angeles, CA
 Re: Westside Extension Meetings
« Reply #662 on Oct 28, 2010, 10:26am »


Oct 28, 2010, 9:32am, metrocenter wrote:
Listening at work, on the phone (213-922-6045).


Anyone else get a dead line at that number?
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged
metrocenter
Pro Member
*****
member is offline

[avatar]



Joined: Oct 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,110
Location: Cal Heights, Long Beach, CA
 Re: Westside Extension Meetings
« Reply #663 on Oct 28, 2010, 10:29am »

I'm on it right now. Just for verification, the phone number (213-922-6045) is here.
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged

I will ride the Expo Line!
Gokhan
Pro Member
*****
member is offline

[avatar]

Bring light-rail back to LA



Joined: Mar 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,990
Location: Palms, LA, CA
 Re: Westside Extension Meetings
« Reply #664 on Oct 28, 2010, 10:36am »


Oct 28, 2010, 10:25am, metrocenter wrote:
His point being: don't worry, it is safe.

On the contrary his point (and amendment) was that we will now carefully study to make sure that it's safe and we will not build it unless it is safe.

Quote:
This is a historic day, I wish I could've been there.

I thought you were the biggest fan of the Westside subway. I would have never missed such an historic Expo meeting. :)
« Last Edit: Oct 28, 2010, 10:39am by Gokhan »Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged

Rail obstructionists should accept the fact that at-grade rail deserves as much chance as the at-grade automobile.
Dan Wentzel
Pro Member
*****
member is offline





Joined: Nov 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 514
 Re: Westside Extension Meetings
« Reply #665 on Oct 28, 2010, 1:42pm »


Oct 26, 2010, 2:49pm, Gokhan wrote:

Oct 26, 2010, 1:46pm, Dan Wentzel wrote:
Why doesn't the Valley lobby its politicians to repeal the Robbins law?

Because it's too late. The valley already has BRT instead of LRT, and tearing it down would mean wasting a new investment and stopping existing transit service for years.


I refuse to accept that the San Fernando Valley has to be stuck with a measly busway for all eternity because of the actions of some NIMBYs and a crooked politician 20 years ago.

One option is an at-grade modern streetcar running on Ventura Blvd. in a transit only lane between Universal City and Warner Center.

If were going to have a "subway", I'd put it under Ventura Blvd. to Universal City and then Olive to the Burbank Metrolink (and possibly HSR) station.

In any event, the San Fernando Valley deserves an east-west rail line of its own from Pasadena to Warner Center however you get there and they shouldn't have to go without because of the actions of a corrupt politician and his band of NIMBYs.
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged
metrocenter
Pro Member
*****
member is offline

[avatar]



Joined: Oct 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,110
Location: Cal Heights, Long Beach, CA
 Re: Westside Extension Meetings
« Reply #666 on Oct 28, 2010, 1:49pm »


Oct 28, 2010, 10:36am, Gokhan wrote:

I thought you were the biggest fan of the Westside subway. I would have never missed such an historic Expo meeting. :)


I have a 9-5 job and I couldn't make it to the meeting. My team's project is due in two days, it would be irresponsible for me not to be at work.

Anyway, I think I more than made up for it with all the emails and letters I sent and meetings I attended.
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged

I will ride the Expo Line!
Gokhan
Pro Member
*****
member is offline

[avatar]

Bring light-rail back to LA



Joined: Mar 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,990
Location: Palms, LA, CA
 Re: Westside Extension Meetings
« Reply #667 on Oct 28, 2010, 2:24pm »


Oct 28, 2010, 1:49pm, metrocenter wrote:

Oct 28, 2010, 10:36am, Gokhan wrote:

I thought you were the biggest fan of the Westside subway. I would have never missed such an historic Expo meeting. :)


I have a 9-5 job and I couldn't make it to the meeting. My team's project is due in two days, it would be irresponsible for me not to be at work.

Anyway, I think I more than made up for it with all the emails and letters I sent and meetings I attended.

I understand. Job comes first. I was teasing you as I sometimes do. ;)
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged

Rail obstructionists should accept the fact that at-grade rail deserves as much chance as the at-grade automobile.
Gokhan
Pro Member
*****
member is offline

[avatar]

Bring light-rail back to LA



Joined: Mar 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,990
Location: Palms, LA, CA
 Re: Westside Extension Meetings
« Reply #668 on Oct 28, 2010, 4:31pm »

Now, the interesting thing to see will be if these things can actually be built in ten years. Of course, our transit dreams can start being shattered starting Tuesday night. Time will be of essence now. The federal loans must be secured as fast as possible within the next two years, before more political "change" comes.
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged

Rail obstructionists should accept the fact that at-grade rail deserves as much chance as the at-grade automobile.
darrell
Pro Member
*****
member is offline





Joined: Feb 2008
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,350
 Re: Westside Extension Meetings
« Reply #669 on Oct 28, 2010, 5:21pm »

Here's the historic vote!

[image]

Yes, the public comment began with much hand-wringing by Beverly Hills people about the “safety of the children”, but never made a clear connection between that and a subway tunnel under the high school.

One good note I hadn't thought of, from Charles Adelman, was that a station at Constellation better serves all the people who work at the Fox studio south of Olympic.

To counter the usual BRU stuff about not reducing traffic congestion I emphasized that the subway will provide fast, reliable trips of less than 1/2 hour from Westwood to Downtown and adds rush-hour capacity of more than half of the Santa Monica Freeway.

Also, did anyone catch what staff said at the beginning about study of a connection from Crenshaw to Hollywood? The only reference to it in The Source was: "Supervisor Mark Ridley-Thomas, in a committee meeting last week, requested that Metro staff report back later this year on what could be done to study a future transit project to serve the West Hollywood area."
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged
Gokhan
Pro Member
*****
member is offline

[avatar]

Bring light-rail back to LA



Joined: Mar 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,990
Location: Palms, LA, CA
 Re: Westside Extension Meetings
« Reply #670 on Oct 28, 2010, 5:31pm »


Oct 28, 2010, 5:21pm, darrell wrote:
One good note I hadn't thought of, from Charles Adelman, was that a station at Constellation better serves all the people who work at the Fox studio south of Olympic.

Century City is named after the 20th Century Fox studios after all. ;)
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged

Rail obstructionists should accept the fact that at-grade rail deserves as much chance as the at-grade automobile.
LAofAnaheim
Pro Member
*****
member is offline





Joined: Mar 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,117
 Re: Westside Extension Meetings
« Reply #671 on Oct 28, 2010, 8:49pm »

What was the reason Antonovich abstained from this vote? It's very puzzling. He was just approved the Gold Line foothill extension by the Board. He's not like MRT who's advocating for a fully underground Crenshaw Line in his district with a FEIR outstanding. What's Antonovich's beef? Was it the smack talk from A. Narajan about the 710 tunnel not being the "tunnel he supports"?
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged
trackman
Guest
 Re: Westside Extension Meetings
« Reply #672 on Oct 29, 2010, 5:44am »

What was the amended final motion? It seems with all the comments about treating different groups the same or being equitable regarding safety concerns, that the selected alignment could be re-thought.
« Last Edit: Oct 29, 2010, 8:58am by trackman »Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged
metrocenter
Pro Member
*****
member is offline

[avatar]



Joined: Oct 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,110
Location: Cal Heights, Long Beach, CA
 Re: Westside Extension Meetings
« Reply #673 on Oct 29, 2010, 7:19am »


Oct 28, 2010, 8:49pm, LAofAnaheim wrote:
What was the reason Antonovich abstained from this vote? It's very puzzling. He was just approved the Gold Line foothill extension by the Board.


Antonovich is f****** d*****, in my opinion far worse than MRT or any other supervisor in my memory. He has been a supervisor since 1980, and has fought Metro Rail since before there was Metro Rail. (Of course he is fine with the Foothill Line because it is in his own district and he is a hypocrite.) He especially can't stand anything that is built within Los Angeles city limits.

He will finally be term-limited out in 2016, but he will likely be in power until then (assuming he gets reelected in 2012 - which he will because supervisors are little emperors who rarely get voted out of office). (wiki page)

His abstention here is no surprise. And his arguments with Villaraigosa about part C of Item 22 (the Westside Subway item) are no surprise, he just wants to be the dark cloud on an otherwise proud day for the County of Los Angeles.
« Last Edit: Oct 29, 2010, 7:20am by metrocenter »Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged

I will ride the Expo Line!
metrocenter
Pro Member
*****
member is offline

[avatar]



Joined: Oct 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,110
Location: Cal Heights, Long Beach, CA
 Re: Westside Extension Meetings
« Reply #674 on Oct 29, 2010, 7:54am »

BTW, here is Metro's image of the LPA, nice and pretty:

[image]
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged

I will ride the Expo Line!
« Page 27 of 34 » Jump to page   Go    [Search This Thread] [Share Topic] [Print]

Click Here To Make This Board Ad-Free


This Board Hosted For FREE By ProBoards
Get Your Own Free Message Boards & Free Forums!
Terms of Service | Privacy Policy | Notice | FTC Disclosure | Report Abuse | Mobile