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Post by metrocenter on Jul 23, 2011 7:07:22 GMT -8
China bullet train 'derails'(AFP) – 1 hour ago BEIJING — A Chinese high-speed train derailed on Saturday with two of its carriages falling off a bridge, the official Xinhua news agency reported, saying casualty numbers were not immediately known. The train was travelling between the cities of Hangzhou and Wenzhou in eastern China's Zhejiang province when it went off the rails around 8:30pm (1230 GMT), it reported, citing local firefighting sources. more to come as details become available
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Post by rubbertoe on Jul 23, 2011 7:22:54 GMT -8
Terrible. I would say that the chances of any Chinese participation in the CAHSR project just hit 0%. Never gonna happen. RT
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Post by LAofAnaheim on Jul 23, 2011 8:04:41 GMT -8
Terrible. I would say that the chances of any Chinese participation in the CAHSR project just hit 0%. Never gonna happen. RT There's dozens of people killed A DAY by car crashes, but yet, we still manufacture and build roads for cars.....
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Post by Alexis Kasperavičius on Jul 23, 2011 11:00:33 GMT -8
China pushed this project through without testing so they could make a political holiday. Some bridges were not even finished and they still opened the line. Reap what you sow!
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Post by jeisenbe on Jul 23, 2011 13:54:55 GMT -8
That's terrible. I believe this is the first HST derailment with fatalities. Japan, France, Taiwan, Spain, Germany have all managed amazingly good safety records with HSR, much better than Amtrak or airplanes, and 1000 times safer than driving. This is clearly the result of incompetence or criminal behavior in construction or operations
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Post by elray on Jul 23, 2011 14:02:49 GMT -8
Terrible. I would say that the chances of any Chinese participation in the CAHSR project just hit 0%. Never gonna happen. RT This failure was predicted. www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-china-train-20110716,0,7852908.story and illustrates why we must be diligent and unrelenting in our quest to see rail built right, the first time, without haste, or sacrificing safety for political expediency. While I'm not in favor of any of the current/proposed CAHSR designs, if we are to build any HSR, I'd hope that we push towards domestic sources of train sets, rather than continuing to go abroad, and I see little reason why we would hire a foreign contractor to build any of it.
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Post by rubbertoe on Jul 23, 2011 15:12:41 GMT -8
That's terrible. I believe this is the first HST derailment with fatalities. Japan, France, Taiwan, Spain, Germany have all managed amazingly good safety records with HSR, much better than Amtrak or airplanes, and 1000 times safer than driving. This is clearly the result of incompetence or criminal behavior in construction or operations Eschede is the worst HSR accident that I am aware of: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eschede_train_disasterUnless I"m mistaken, no one has ever died in Japan, and a TGV derailed in France once, but the cars remained upright and no one was killed. I think I heard on the news that the first train was hit by lightning, disabling it, and the next train rear ended it. Positive train control would probably have prevented that if that is indeed what happened. RT
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