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Post by numble on Jan 6, 2020 13:49:51 GMT -8
Details on Metro’s plan to lengthen 4 Green Line stations, add power substations and repair/upgrade other stations to allow for 3-car trains.
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Post by joquitter on Jan 7, 2020 9:28:52 GMT -8
Nice find, Numble! Hopefully this goes through without a hitch. A three-car platform at Aviation/LAX is sorely needed.
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Post by metrocenter on Jan 7, 2020 14:21:36 GMT -8
Numble always gets the first scoop...thanks for this info!
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Post by numble on Jan 25, 2020 10:35:00 GMT -8
December 2019 project status report. They moved back the forecast construction completion to 7/25/2020. The risk of this not opening this year is increasingly likely.
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Post by metrocenter on Feb 24, 2020 9:11:35 GMT -8
Major Project Status Report for February is out. Per the report, "Project is 94% complete." The January report said 93%. Forecast opening: this summer/fall. But there are big problems with the schedule which need to get resolved.
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Post by numble on Feb 28, 2020 12:15:20 GMT -8
January 2020 status report. Only 0.1% progress for a line with expected completion in July.
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Post by numble on Mar 15, 2020 8:40:02 GMT -8
Looks like completion won’t happen until December, with service not starting until May 2021 (unless there are further delays). That would mean a new line opening every year from 2021 to 2023 (unless there are delays).
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Post by cygnip2p on Mar 15, 2020 9:47:05 GMT -8
Disappointing but not surprising. I wonder if we will ever know what really has been grinding the rate of construction down on the northern half of the line. Southern half has been complete for months.
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Post by bzcat on Mar 16, 2020 20:40:43 GMT -8
Looks like it will open just in time for the LAX station to begin construction. So the line will likely see lots of service disruptions during the first year when it is critical to build ridership.
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Post by joquitter on Mar 17, 2020 8:45:00 GMT -8
Looks like it will open just in time for the LAX station to begin construction. So the line will likely see lots of service disruptions during the first year when it is critical to build ridership. Oh, is that when the Aviation/96th Street Station is scheduled to begin construction? I haven't heard too much on that front. Good to know.
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Post by bzcat on Mar 30, 2020 8:59:46 GMT -8
LAWA says APM will begin service in fall 2023. All the APM contracts have been awarded and construction is underway so no reason to believe anything is delayed.
Working backwards from 2023 opening date, it implies construction for the 96th street station and transit center has to begin no later than early 2021. I actually don't know if Metro has awarded the contract for the 96th street station and transit center and whether it is the same contractor for the APM station.
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Post by cygnip2p on Mar 30, 2020 10:59:20 GMT -8
... if the rest of the Crenshaw line itself is open by 2023.
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Post by numble on Mar 31, 2020 23:15:07 GMT -8
LAWA says APM will begin service in fall 2023. All the APM contracts have been awarded and construction is underway so no reason to believe anything is delayed. Working backwards from 2023 opening date, it implies construction for the 96th street station and transit center has to begin no later than early 2021. I actually don't know if Metro has awarded the contract for the 96th street station and transit center and whether it is the same contractor for the APM station. I think it hasn't been awarded yet. But according to this article (and other scattered information on Metro's site), the station will be built under a design-bid-build structure, so the design will be completed before they award the construction contract. When they award the construction contract, the construction can get going right away. For many of the design-build projects that Metro usually awards, there is a 1-1.5 year lag or so before construction starts as they first design the project before starting construction. www.metro.net/news/simple_pr/metro-board-approves-259-million-contract-all-fema/
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Post by numble on Apr 2, 2020 12:31:48 GMT -8
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Post by andert on Apr 6, 2020 21:39:05 GMT -8
Has the service pattern been set in stone for the crenshaw/green lines yet? Did they end up choosing C3 for certain, or is B1 still on the table? I'm probably gonna do a video update on all of the Measure M projects since I have copious amounts of time on my hands thanks to quarantine and want to make sure i get it right.
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Post by numble on Apr 7, 2020 7:15:13 GMT -8
Has the service pattern been set in stone for the crenshaw/green lines yet? Did they end up choosing C3 for certain, or is B1 still on the table? I'm probably gonna do a video update on all of the Measure M projects since I have copious amounts of time on my hands thanks to quarantine and want to make sure i get it right. They approved C-3 to operate for 1 year and to be re-evaluated in 1 year. metro.legistar.com/LegislationDetail.aspx?ID=3726988&GUID=0370ED42-3D1D-47FC-A38B-C5E4A6136781&FullText=1It was a close vote of the board. Since the board votes will probably not shift after a year, Metro has applied for a state grant under the TIRCP program to extend platforms at short Green Line stations and add power substations. The grant awards originally were supposed to be announced April 1, but have been delayed. It’s possible the money available to award will be decreased due to the recession. I’ll add that the Regional Connector service pattern isn’t set in stone yet, and it seems Metro staff will give a recommendation to the board to approve again (and the board could override it like with Crenshaw).
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Post by numble on Apr 7, 2020 8:19:34 GMT -8
Crenshaw Line needs a $90 million increase in budget:
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Post by bzcat on Apr 8, 2020 8:54:44 GMT -8
Has the service pattern been set in stone for the crenshaw/green lines yet? Did they end up choosing C3 for certain, or is B1 still on the table? I'm probably gonna do a video update on all of the Measure M projects since I have copious amounts of time on my hands thanks to quarantine and want to make sure i get it right. They approved C-3 to operate for 1 year and to be re-evaluated in 1 year. metro.legistar.com/LegislationDetail.aspx?ID=3726988&GUID=0370ED42-3D1D-47FC-A38B-C5E4A6136781&FullText=1It was a close vote of the board. Since the board votes will probably not shift after a year, Metro has applied for a state grant under the TIRCP program to extend platforms at short Green Line stations and add power substations. The grant awards originally were supposed to be announced April 1, but have been delayed. It’s possible the money available to award will be decreased due to the recession. I’ll add that the Regional Connector service pattern isn’t set in stone yet, and it seems Metro staff will give a recommendation to the board to approve again (and the board could override it like with Crenshaw). Just a reminder for people who didn't follow this originally... Alternative C1 would run one line from Norwalk to Expo, and another line from Redondo to Century/Aviation. Alternative C3 would run one line from Norwalk to Expo, and another line from Redondo to Norwalk. Alternative B1 would run one line from Norwalk to Expo, 2nd line from Redondo to Norwalk, and 3rd line from Redondo to Expo.
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Post by joquitter on Apr 8, 2020 17:31:50 GMT -8
I thought that C3 was: Norwalk to Expo and Redondo to Willowbrook?
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Post by numble on Apr 9, 2020 14:40:47 GMT -8
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Post by John Ryan on Apr 9, 2020 18:06:42 GMT -8
Is ANYONE going to be held responsible for this?!?
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Post by numble on Apr 9, 2020 20:09:08 GMT -8
Is ANYONE going to be held responsible for this?!? I think when there are cost overruns, it is typical for Metro and the contractors to sue each other after the project and then we find out who wins a couple of years later. It also seems that Metro informally stops granting construction contracts for some time. The contractors for the Crenshaw Line are Walsh and Shea. Here is an LA Times article on how Metro sued Tutor Perini for Red Line construction issues in 1995, and Tutor Perini did not get any Metro contracts for 20+ years despite being the largest transit construction firm. www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-metro-purple-line-20170126-story.html
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Post by culvercitylocke on Apr 9, 2020 22:35:23 GMT -8
Is ANYONE going to be held responsible for this?!? No.
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Post by numble on Apr 10, 2020 14:38:10 GMT -8
LAWA says APM will begin service in fall 2023. All the APM contracts have been awarded and construction is underway so no reason to believe anything is delayed. Working backwards from 2023 opening date, it implies construction for the 96th street station and transit center has to begin no later than early 2021. I actually don't know if Metro has awarded the contract for the 96th street station and transit center and whether it is the same contractor for the APM station. According to this document (page 58), the Airport Metro Connector Station contract was planned to start advertising for bids on March 20, 2020 (I don't think the RFP is out yet), with a contract start date of August 2020 and a contract finish date of December 2023. media.metro.net/2020/3.5.20+TBAC+General+Meeting+Complete+Packet.pdf
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Post by andert on Apr 23, 2020 9:34:14 GMT -8
Has the service pattern been set in stone for the crenshaw/green lines yet? Did they end up choosing C3 for certain, or is B1 still on the table? I'm probably gonna do a video update on all of the Measure M projects since I have copious amounts of time on my hands thanks to quarantine and want to make sure i get it right. They approved C-3 to operate for 1 year and to be re-evaluated in 1 year. metro.legistar.com/LegislationDetail.aspx?ID=3726988&GUID=0370ED42-3D1D-47FC-A38B-C5E4A6136781&FullText=1It was a close vote of the board. Since the board votes will probably not shift after a year, Metro has applied for a state grant under the TIRCP program to extend platforms at short Green Line stations and add power substations. The grant awards originally were supposed to be announced April 1, but have been delayed. It’s possible the money available to award will be decreased due to the recession. I’ll add that the Regional Connector service pattern isn’t set in stone yet, and it seems Metro staff will give a recommendation to the board to approve again (and the board could override it like with Crenshaw). Thanks! I posted the video if anyone's interested: www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzFwWsO30KM(It's lengthier and more freewheeling than last time, and not really an advocacy piece like before. More just an update I made out of boredom. But it gets into wondering where more expansion money could come from at the end and I raise the question of a Green New Deal that includes significant urban transportation money.)
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Post by numble on Apr 24, 2020 17:28:01 GMT -8
Study of the Centinela grade separation has come out. This is a priority of Mayor Butts. The recommended options would cost between $185 and $241 million, and take 2-2.5 years to construct. The highest scoring and cheapest option is to delay the opening until the bridge is built—the other options involve either a shoo-fly track or a bus bridge in place while the bridge is built.
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Post by culvercitylocke on Apr 25, 2020 6:31:23 GMT -8
Study of the Centinela grade separation has come out. This is a priority of Mayor Butts. The recommended options would cost between $185 and $241 million, and take 2-2.5 years to construct. The highest scoring and cheapest option is to delay the opening until the bridge is built—the other options involve either a shoo-fly track or a bus bridge in place while the bridge is built. Or just close centinela there and return the land to the adjacent park.
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Post by numble on May 15, 2020 9:07:11 GMT -8
Staff appear poised to recommend that an aerial grade separation is built at Centinela, with bus bridging to shuttle passengers through the gap during the 2 year construction period.
The South Bay Cities COG refuses to spend their funds for their portion of the Crenshaw Line cost overruns ($33.3 million out of $90 million) unless Metro agrees to build this $200 million grade separation:
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Post by numble on May 16, 2020 8:05:16 GMT -8
Here’s the formal staff recommendation on proceeding with Centinela grade separation and using bus bridges during construction.
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Post by culvercitylocke on May 16, 2020 15:44:14 GMT -8
Just close centinela.
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