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Post by jamesinclair on Dec 1, 2011 18:40:43 GMT -8
This thread is simply for fun.
Phase 1 construction is finally coming to a close. Time to make bets on when you think the line will open to the public.
Don't just do simple math. Floods, windstorms, locusts, incompetence etc are all valid reasons for further delays.
Entries must be in before December 4th to be eligible for the prize*.
Guesses
January 22/23 -bzcat January 29 - jamesinclair, macross287 January 30 - rubbertoe February 28 - outthere15, jdrcrasher March 10 - RMoses March 23 - roadtrainer* April 1 - LAofAnaheim April 15 - Gokhan* August 15 - Philip* 2013 - bzcat attempt 2* March 23 2014 - roadtrainer* March 22 2015 - metrocenter*
*Late Guess
*There is no prize. But you can brag.
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Post by macross287 on Dec 1, 2011 18:48:07 GMT -8
I second January 29, that's if they start this weekend.
I have feeling Metro will not do full pre-revenue testing on the weeks of Christmas and New Years due to reduced staff . That should add at most 2 weeks to the 6 week pr-revenue testing.
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Post by outthere15 on Dec 1, 2011 20:25:16 GMT -8
February 28th, 20012 ...............just a guess based on nothing. Mark Itz
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Post by joshuanickel on Dec 1, 2011 22:01:11 GMT -8
February 28th, 20012 ...............just a guess based on nothing. Mark Itz By 20012, we will teleport everywhere. If the world is still exists in 18000 years.
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Post by RMoses on Dec 2, 2011 8:21:03 GMT -8
March 10th, 2012.
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Post by LAofAnaheim on Dec 2, 2011 9:15:46 GMT -8
April 1, 2012 with the opening all the way to Culver City station
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Post by bzcat on Dec 2, 2011 11:33:16 GMT -8
January 22 or 23 to LaCienega.
February 19 or 20 to Culver City.
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Post by rubbertoe on Dec 2, 2011 16:42:42 GMT -8
This thread is simply for fun. Phase 1 construction is finally coming to a close. Time to make bets on when you think the line will open to the public. Don't just do simple math. Floods, windstorms, locusts, incompetence etc are all valid reasons for further delays. Entries must be in before December 4th to be eligible for the prize*. GuessesJanuary 22/23 -bzcat January 29 - jamesinclair, macross287 February 28 - outthere15 March 10 - RMoses April 1 - LAofAnaheim *There is no prize. But you can brag. 01-30-12 RT, show me the Money!
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Post by jdrcrasher on Dec 2, 2011 17:26:50 GMT -8
I'm with jamesinclair and macross287... January 29th.
April 1st might be a stretch LAofAnaheim, given the recent positive news of Metro finally being given control of everything.EDIT: Woah nevermind. Just finished reading in the other thread about the pre-revenue service not starting Sunday.
So with all that in mind, I'll agree with outthere15.Disappointed to see expolinefan gone.
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Post by jamesinclair on Dec 5, 2011 18:14:58 GMT -8
Guesses for prizes have been closed.
May the best guesser win!
(Im already regretting my guess)
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Post by Gokhan on Dec 16, 2011 13:33:49 GMT -8
There is no need to close the guessing. This line will not open anytime soon.
I predict an April 15 opening to La Cienega and an August 26 opening to Culver City (in 2012).
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Post by James Fujita on Dec 16, 2011 14:44:28 GMT -8
April 15 seems needlessly pessimistic, considering that there are already LRVs out on the line in pre-pre-revenue, pre-stage 3 testing.
The August date may be right for Culver, depending upon how slow things go.
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Post by Gokhan on Dec 16, 2011 15:50:20 GMT -8
April 15 seems needlessly pessimistic, considering that there are already LRVs out on the line in pre-pre-revenue, pre-stage 3 testing. That's based on Darrell's latest news from Metro that the Expo Line prerevenue operations will last for three months, which haven't started yet.
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Post by masonite on Dec 16, 2011 15:54:39 GMT -8
April 15 seems needlessly pessimistic, considering that there are already LRVs out on the line in pre-pre-revenue, pre-stage 3 testing. That's based on Darrell's latest news from Metro that the Expo Line prerevenue operations will last for three months, which haven't started yet. Unfortunately, that is a pretty good guess. I think Q1 2012 is all but impossible now.
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Post by James Fujita on Dec 16, 2011 19:26:31 GMT -8
I'll admit I hadn't seen the 12 weeks announcement.
That still seems like it follows the same line of safety reasoning used to give us Farmdale Station.
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Post by tonyw79sfv on Dec 16, 2011 19:38:19 GMT -8
I guess Metro is trying to save on printing expenses for the Metro system map by waiting for Expo, including Culver City and Farmdale, and the Orange Line Chatsworth extension to open all at once.
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Post by bobdavis on Dec 16, 2011 23:00:09 GMT -8
I was at the Electric Ry. Historical Assn. meeting tonight; the subject was PE in the San Fernando Valley, commemorating the opening of Red Car service to Van Nuys a hundred years ago today. PE got the line built and running to Van Nuys in about a year, back in the days when construction was done with mule teams and steam shovels. Of course this was done when landowners wanted the line completed so they could make big money subdividing farmland. It was also back in the days when automobiles had just emerged from the "horseless carriage" period, and were not the deadly competitors to railways. We didn't have all the traffic-control systems that seem to be a major part of the delay on this project.
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Post by LAofAnaheim on Dec 17, 2011 0:00:14 GMT -8
I'll admit I hadn't seen the 12 weeks announcement. That still seems like it follows the same line of safety reasoning used to give us Farmdale Station. People appear to be using the term "pre-revenue operations" very liberally. Whatever the 12 week reference to, I'm assuming, is 6 weeks of Metro testing (current testing) and 6 weeks of TRUE pre-revenue testing in order for opening day. Thus, meaning pre-revenue operations won't start until 2nd or 3rd week in January. Trains were running at 5 minute headways this evening, it was a beautiful sight to see. I have many videos to upload. You'll see them soon!
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Post by James Fujita on Dec 17, 2011 2:48:28 GMT -8
I'd be more more inclined to believe that. If the clock is already ticking, it would be nice to know.
Also, people forget that the Blue Line didn't open all at once either. The first trains didn't go to 7th/ Metro.
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Post by Justin Walker on Dec 17, 2011 11:31:24 GMT -8
Also, people forget that the Blue Line didn't open all at once either. The first trains didn't go to 7th/ Metro. Or to the stations in the Long Beach loop.
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Post by erict on Dec 17, 2011 16:10:54 GMT -8
The RED line seemed like it took 10 years to open to North Hollywood.
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Post by transitfan on Dec 17, 2011 20:38:24 GMT -8
Also, people forget that the Blue Line didn't open all at once either. The first trains didn't go to 7th/ Metro. Or to the stations in the Long Beach loop. Indeed. Pico to Anaheim: 7/14/90 Long Beach Loop: 9/2/90 Pico to 7th St/Metro Center: 2/14/91
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Post by bluelineshawn on Dec 18, 2011 11:00:47 GMT -8
April 15 seems needlessly pessimistic, considering that there are already LRVs out on the line in pre-pre-revenue, pre-stage 3 testing. The August date may be right for Culver, depending upon how slow things go. No such thing as "needlessly pessimistic" regarding Expo. Past experience has shown that everything is delayed and the delayed dates are delayed. For everything. Very little has gone even remotely close to plan. Some things have been so far off plan that you have to wonder if they knew what was involved from the start. If anything Gokhan is being realistic and perhaps even optimistic as we still haven't seen that the Washington junction has been completed.
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Post by roadtrainer on Dec 18, 2011 15:55:08 GMT -8
Well if the truth be known it will open on my Birthday--March 23rd. 201? That's right March 23rd. 201?!
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Post by metrocenter on Dec 19, 2011 8:25:45 GMT -8
^ You mean my birthday, March 22, 201?!!! LOL
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Post by Gokhan on Dec 19, 2011 14:04:50 GMT -8
I hope not. The line would open a Sunday and we would have to wait until 2014 for roadtrainer's Birthday and 2015 for metrocenter's Birthday.
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Post by roadtrainer on Dec 19, 2011 23:01:36 GMT -8
^ You mean my birthday, March 22, 201?!!! LOL Well it could be my niece's birthday March 24th. 201?!
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Post by jamesinclair on Dec 25, 2011 23:57:47 GMT -8
I think it is safe to say that: bzcat jamesinclair macross287 rubbertoe
Have lost. Thanks for having (badly placed) faith in Expo and Metro, try again with Phase 2!
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Post by bobdavis on Dec 26, 2011 11:49:20 GMT -8
Some time between now and when the Devil goes ice skating? Or sometime between now and when the Dodgers and Angels play each other in the World Series?
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Post by bzcat on Dec 27, 2011 15:08:19 GMT -8
I think it is safe to say that: bzcat jamesinclair macross287 rubbertoe Have lost. Thanks for having (badly placed) faith in Expo and Metro, try again with Phase 2! New guess: July 2013
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