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Post by Gokhan on Mar 16, 2012 20:36:59 GMT -8
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Post by Gokhan on Mar 17, 2012 9:56:33 GMT -8
Could it be that this was an emergency-response drill?
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Post by tonyw79sfv on Mar 17, 2012 16:16:15 GMT -8
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Post by simonla on Mar 17, 2012 16:59:46 GMT -8
Metro is reporting it was a Blue Line train involved in the crash (that would be Saturday's, not Friday's). Not that that makes it any better.
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Post by Gokhan on Mar 17, 2012 17:56:09 GMT -8
Here is a picture: At least this is the old track shared with the Blue Line. People really need to obey the traffic signals.
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Post by Gokhan on Mar 17, 2012 18:11:29 GMT -8
In the picture, you can see that the train was travelling southbound on Flower Street and the car also travelling southbound, not realizing that a train was coming from behind, made a left turn at Venice Boulevard in front of the train, completely disregarding the solid red arrow and the flashing train signal. Some people are idiots.
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Post by bluelineshawn on Mar 17, 2012 18:13:21 GMT -8
Metro is reporting it was a Blue Line train involved in the crash (that would be Saturday's, not Friday's). Not that that makes it any better. It was an Expo train. Metro also reporting that the train derailed. Hope that there are no serious injuries and that there is no track damage.
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Post by Gokhan on Mar 17, 2012 18:23:00 GMT -8
Metro is reporting it was a Blue Line train involved in the crash (that would be Saturday's, not Friday's). Not that that makes it any better. It was an Expo train. Metro also reporting that the train derailed. Hope that there are no serious injuries and that there is no track damage. Train is derailed probably because they had to lift it to free the car according to the photo above.
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Post by Gokhan on Mar 17, 2012 18:40:29 GMT -8
ABC news link with a video, showing the single-car Siemens Expo Line test train, with the car trying to make a left turn in front of it pinned by it.
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Post by Gokhan on Mar 17, 2012 19:07:37 GMT -8
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Post by benh57 on Mar 17, 2012 20:58:20 GMT -8
Just a suggestion, use descriptive topic titles please. Perhaps "Expo Line Accidents" ?
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Post by Gokhan on Mar 18, 2012 1:31:00 GMT -8
Just a suggestion, use descriptive topic titles please. Perhaps "Expo Line Accidents" ? Well, the thread is meant for post-project-completion news, including many things. The accidents usually end up in the news as well.
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Post by bzcat on Mar 18, 2012 7:33:12 GMT -8
So 2 crashes in 2 days since they started running test trains during regular service hours? Also, there was 6 people in the Mercedes C250... Something tells me the driver ignores a lot of traffic rules and this is not the first time he ran a red light
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Post by Gokhan on Mar 18, 2012 10:29:19 GMT -8
So 2 crashes in 2 days since they started running test trains during regular service hours? Also, there was 6 people in the Mercedes C250... Something tells me the driver ignores a lot of traffic rules and this is not the first time he ran a red light Actually, no, the first crash was in early March, which never made the news. Also, the prerevenue test trains started running on regular schedule only today. 6 people in a car = possibly distracted driver. Alcohol is also always a possibility, especially on days like Saint Patrick's Day. Ignorant driver? Definitely yes.
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Post by simonla on Mar 18, 2012 11:08:51 GMT -8
So 2 crashes in 2 days since they started running test trains during regular service hours? Also, there was 6 people in the Mercedes C250... Something tells me the driver ignores a lot of traffic rules and this is not the first time he ran a red light Actually, no, the first crash was in early March, which never made the news. Also, the prerevenue test trains started running on regular schedule only today. 6 people in a car = possibly distracted driver. Alcohol is also always a possibility, especially on days like Saint Patrick's Day. Ignorant driver? Definitely yes. It was St. Patrick's Day--good point. I'm very curious to see if alcohol was involved. It did seem that they removed the car and had service (er, testing and Blue Line service) mostly restored quite quickly; about four hours.
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Post by rajacobs on Mar 21, 2012 17:54:20 GMT -8
By now many have received the "Expo E-News Spring 2012." This is the kind of public relations piece they've needed for a long time. It's easy to go jaundiced on the project when the projections are unclear and a nagging signaling problem seems to hold everyone hostage. But the writers of this piece did a nice job putting a postiive and friendly face on the effort thus far. Not minimizing the challenges and shortfalls--I still want to applaud this communications effort!
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Post by bzcat on Mar 26, 2012 17:51:08 GMT -8
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Post by Gokhan on Apr 11, 2012 12:00:30 GMT -8
We were told yesterday when we were riding the Expo Line that they were six USC students and had the brand-new Mercedes for only 18 minutes. In response to this accident, Metro has now required all nearby auto dealers to give flyers to new owners, cautioning them about light-rail safety. So, if you buy a car from a Downtown dealer, you will now get a light-rail flyer. The six USC students, who ran the red light and hit the train, are now doing OK. Likewise, they noticed that the trucks were using the carpool ramp that crosses the tracks on Flower St and the truck association was notified so that the truckers stop doing that.
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Post by Gokhan on Apr 20, 2012 9:02:10 GMT -8
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Post by LAofAnaheim on Apr 20, 2012 10:08:32 GMT -8
Wasn't this already posted yesterday by RMoss?
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Post by Gokhan on Apr 20, 2012 10:19:31 GMT -8
Wasn't this already posted yesterday by RMoss? He posted it in the wrong thread and I wasn't aware of it as a result. A crash reported in the news is not a "project development."
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Post by RMoses on Apr 20, 2012 11:11:36 GMT -8
Wasn't this already posted yesterday by RMoss? He posted it in the wrong thread and I wasn't aware of it as a result. A crash reported in the news is not a "project development." I posted it in the main thread "Exposition Light Rail Line Project Developments" as it relates to the Project Development since the Expo Line is not operational yet - it is still "Developing..."
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Post by Gokhan on Apr 20, 2012 11:28:03 GMT -8
He posted it in the wrong thread and I wasn't aware of it as a result. A crash reported in the news is not a "project development." I posted it in the main thread "Exposition Light Rail Line Project Developments" as it relates to the Project Development since the Expo Line is not operational yet - it is still "Developing..." We've been posting the accident news at this thread. It's much better for reference purposes if subjects are appropriately grouped. This also applies to bus-route discussions -- they don't belong to the Phase 1 project developments thread but the Expo bus thread. Note that Phase 1 project is finished now except for Farmdale and Culver City. We also have a thread here for Phase 2 construction.
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Post by Alexis Kasperavičius on Apr 24, 2012 11:55:39 GMT -8
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Post by Alexis Kasperavičius on Apr 26, 2012 9:47:10 GMT -8
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Post by Gokhan on May 7, 2012 18:48:22 GMT -8
As if the public isn't already skeptical about the brand-new Expo Line, it broke down tonight due to a traction-power failure at Farmdale, leading delays up to an hour. Some of the passengers said that they would never take the train again and use the bus instead, while others tried to make the best out of the bus bridge. One advantage of the bus bridge was that it let people get off at places where the train doesn't stop, such as Arlington, Farmdale, and Hauser. Waiting for the bus bridge at Western Avenue, with the bus bridge just arriving: A Crenshaw Station platform crowded with stranded passengers: Disabled train, apparently due to lack of overhead power, at Farmdale: Since the train was disabled at Farmdale, gates of Farmdale stayed down indefinitely: La Cienega Station also getting busy because of disruption of service: Train, waiting away from platform at La Cienega possibly because of single-tracking: -- Reporting from the bus bridge.
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Post by jamesinclair on May 7, 2012 21:59:05 GMT -8
"Since the train was disabled at Farmdale, gates of Farmdale stayed down indefinitely"
Oh NIMBYs, what have you done
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Post by Gokhan on May 7, 2012 22:10:52 GMT -8
Metro says it was a failed lightning arrestor. Go figure why would a lightning arrestor cause problems on a sunny day.
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Post by Gokhan on May 8, 2012 8:28:26 GMT -8
This PDF document explains why lightning arresters fail, leading to power outages, and how to easily diagnose for potentially failing overheated ones using an infrared thermometer or camera. Metro's handling of the breakdown yesterday was poor. First they said they would single-track but they didn't and used a bus bridge. For some people the bus bridge never arrived. Others were told to change platforms at Western. There were reports of people walking in the right-of-way. There were many frustrated and angry passengers.
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Post by bluelineshawn on May 8, 2012 10:23:21 GMT -8
Welcome to the world of public transportation. These things happen everywhere.
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