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Post by rubbertoe on Aug 16, 2014 8:12:41 GMT -8
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Post by TransportationZ on Sept 11, 2014 9:57:02 GMT -8
Which is what Metro should be doing anyway. This probably why the first attempt failed. Voters need to see what Metro is spending their tax money on. With both the Expo Line and Foothill Gold Lines opening just before the ballot, voters seeing new projects being finished should change the atmosphere over an extension of Measure R.
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Post by Philip on Sept 11, 2014 11:43:02 GMT -8
I agree - the marketing of Measure J was unclear at best. Most of the voters probably saw that and thought, "Didn't I vote for this already?"
A clear set of projects with budgets and schedules should clarify things, but it could also backfire as well.
People already scoff at the notion of the Purple line being finished in 2036. Imagine if some new projects appear in the new ballot, but the schedule says they won't be done until 2050! It might become tough to take the ballot seriously.
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Post by culvercitylocke on Sept 11, 2014 14:37:14 GMT -8
I read measure j, was confused, had my attorney wife read it and we both decided It meant that funds would be diverted from rail to highway construction like the 710 tunnel to pasadena. We voted against it because we wanted to keep measure r money safe and it sounded like a scam meant to double the amount of money from r by making r sixty years long but suspiciously it built no new projects despite all the new money. Sounded like a con meant to make politicians and contractors rich. Why should we vote billions for a tax that doesn't pay for anything new?
All typ0s courtesy of Samsung.
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Post by masonite on Sept 12, 2014 0:20:56 GMT -8
I agree - the marketing of Measure J was unclear at best. Most of the voters probably saw that and thought, "Didn't I vote for this already?" A clear set of projects with budgets and schedules should clarify things, but it could also backfire as well. People already scoff at the notion of the Purple line being finished in 2036. Imagine if some new projects appear in the new ballot, but the schedule says they won't be done until 2050! It might become tough to take the ballot seriously. Yes, everyone seems to have these big expectations now. Underground rail extension from Crenshaw Expo to Hollywood Highland. Sure, but that is going to be as expensive as the Purple Line Extension and that was to take nearly a quarter century under Measure R. Also, the Feds will only give so much New Starts money at one time, especially with the deficit concerns. I think this is a tough sale. 2/3 is almost impossible. I think many people feel 1.5% sales tax for transportation is enough. |
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Post by fissure on Sept 14, 2014 0:29:32 GMT -8
Well, remember that only 35% of Measure R was for rail construction (I don't have the percentages for A and C handy, but I think they're similar). Not saying we should cut the 20% for bus operations, but the 20% highway component doesn't really need to be there. Plus, we'll have cap and trade money and if we're lucky more money from HOT lanes.
Prop A/C can't be used for subways though, which means we could possibly name the project list Measure R2 or: how I learned to stop worrying and love the El.
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