O.C. - Newland Ave.

[wrcousert]

Newland Ave. is a street that runs parallel to Beach Blvd in Orange County, from Garden Grove Blvd. to PCH in Huntington Beach.

The street seems to have little traffic and seems to me like a good place for an express bus route. Newland is a short walk from Beach Blvd.

If desired, the bus could continue on Dale Ave. as far north as the 91 freeway.

Could this work?

[nickv]

The street seems to have little traffic and seems to me like a good place for an express bus route. Newland is a short walk from Beach Blvd.

This idea might work at first thought... Express bus service to/from Huntington Beach can target people headed to the beach (let's say from the Anaheim ARTIC), and a "short-cut" trip via Newland Av might work, but that's only if a non-stop end-to-end trip on Newland Ave is shorter than Beach Bl.

Beach Blvd is part of the OCTA Smart Street Project which includes properly synchronizing the traffic lights. I have not taken a trip on Beach Blvd lately; so I do not know how well the project is working so far.

In our hometown, I know for sure that the traffic lights on Ynez Road went through synchronizing because an end-to-end trip between the Temecula Wal-Mart to the Promenade Mall is a bit quicker via Ynez than Margarita Road, even though Margarita is more direct. Because the lights are not synchronized on Margarita Road, there have been times where I've just about "missed every single light". Temecula Pkwy, Rancho CA, and Winchester Roads also have synchronized lights.

I'm probably therefore may advocate (on top of better transit service) synchronized lights on Margarita Road, Jefferson Ave and Pechanga Pkwy. I have to check and see if Murrieta Hot Springs Road has synchronized lights; that road would be another candidate.

[wrcousert]

Aug 22, 2008 15:32:53 GMT -8 nickv said:

In our hometown, I know for sure that the traffic lights on Ynez Road went through synchronizing because an end-to-end trip between the Temecula Wal-Mart to the Promenade Mall is a bit quicker via Ynez than Margarita Road, even though Margarita is more direct. Because the lights are not synchronized on Margarita Road, there have been times where I've just about "missed every single light". Temecula Pkwy, Rancho CA, and Winchester Roads also have synchronized lights.

I'm probably therefore may advocate (on top of better transit service) synchronized lights on Margarita Road, Jefferson Ave and Pechanga Pkwy. I have to check and see if Murrieta Hot Springs Road has synchronized lights; that road would be another candidate.

I think both the 23 and 24 should be replaced with several shorter routes that offer direct access between major points of interest, along with 15 minute service that stops no earlier than 8:00pm, if not 10:00pm.

It seems silly to have one route in Murrieta that tries to do everything for everyone.

Take a look here

I'd like to see Murrieta and Temecula look into one of these things as a long term goal. The city of Portland, with it's half million population was able to do it. We probably have close to 300,000 if you count Menifee, Wildomar and the rest of the surrounding communities.

[nickv]

I think both the 23 and 24 should be replaced with several shorter routes that offer direct access between major points of interest, along with 15 minute service that stops no earlier than 8:00pm, if not 10:00pm.

It seems silly to have one route in Murrieta that tries to do everything for everyone.

Take a look here

I'd like to see Murrieta and Temecula look into one of these things as a long term goal. The city of Portland, with it's half million population was able to do it. We probably have close to 300,000 if you count Menifee, Wildomar and the rest of the surrounding communities.

I'm putting together another map with proposals. Some of the more denser areas can have service runs until 10:30 PM with possible owl service until 1 AM on weekend nights. Think about what goes on at Pechanga, Temecula Stampede Night Club, and Old Town Temecula on Friday and Saturday nights...but the upgrades would have to phased-in little by little due to money...

However, the routing of Routes 23 & 24 will have to change soon once the expansion projects at Pechanga are done, the Temecula Medical center is built, the Loma Linda Murrieta Medical Center is finished, and the Temecula Old Town Master Plan is finished.

Under my proposal, frequent bus service would serve the high activity corridors by RTA and would be complimented with local shuttle service which would serve the neighborhoods operated by the cities, communities, or a contract operator. This is a concept somewhat similar to OCTA's Go Local program. I am planning on designing the routes in a way where a rider can get from one end of the Temecula/Murrieta Valley to the other with a 2-seat ride max, using the Temecula TC as the primary hub and other major centers as secondary hubs.

[wrcousert]

Aug 26, 2008 22:58:26 GMT -8 nickv said:

I think both the 23 and 24 should be replaced with several shorter routes that offer direct access between major points of interest, along with 15 minute service that stops no earlier than 8:00pm, if not 10:00pm.

It seems silly to have one route in Murrieta that tries to do everything for everyone.

Take a look here

I'd like to see Murrieta and Temecula look into one of these things as a long term goal. The city of Portland, with it's half million population was able to do it. We probably have close to 300,000 if you count Menifee, Wildomar and the rest of the surrounding communities.

I'm putting together another map with proposals. Some of the more denser areas can have service runs until 10:30 PM with possible owl service until 1 AM on weekend nights. Think about what goes on at Pechanga, Temecula Stampede Night Club, and Old Town Temecula on Friday and Saturday nights...but the upgrades would have to phased-in little by little due to money...

However, the routing of Routes 23 & 24 will have to change soon once the expansion projects at Pechanga are done, the Temecula Medical center is built, the Loma Linda Murrieta Medical Center is finished, and the Temecula Old Town Master Plan is finished.

Under my proposal, frequent bus service would serve the high activity corridors by RTA and would be complimented with local shuttle service which would serve the neighborhoods operated by the cities, communities, or a contract operator. This is a concept somewhat similar to OCTA's Go Local program. I am planning on designing the routes in a way where a rider can get from one end of the Temecula/Murrieta Valley to the other with a 2-seat ride max, using the Temecula TC as the primary hub and other major centers as secondary hubs.

I'd like to see your new map, but I honestly don't think we'll see late night service in the Temecula Valley anytime soon.

I just looked through the current RideGuide. Most RTA routes start their last run before 8:00pm, many before 6:00pm. Only one (route 19) has its last run at 9:15pm.

How can we expect RTA to run service here til 10:30pm if they don't even do it on their busiest routes?

Maybe RTA should raise fares. San Diego's MTS currently charges $2.00 per trip. If RTA did the same, they could use this extra money to increase service.

[dasubergeek]

If Beach ends up anything like Euclid, it'll be fantastic -- you can get from the 405 to Fullerton in two-thirds the time it used to take.

Now if they'd just do it for Brookhurst -- it can take 20 minutes to get off the 22 at Brookhurst and make the two rights and get to the first plaza there (with the Boiling Crab).