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Post by bluelineshawn on Jul 27, 2012 16:58:48 GMT -8
Regarding the idea of plenty of colors, Bruce also pointed out that some colors are off limits for various reasons (PC but he didn't say that) and various others for ADA reasons. He mentioned that metro originally wanted to color expo aqua but that it didn't meet ADA criteria.
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Post by roadtrainer on Jul 27, 2012 22:07:48 GMT -8
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Post by Elson on Jul 28, 2012 2:38:13 GMT -8
What a waste of time debating the name of the expo-line, and you say i"m nuts because i agree with the CPUC when they called the trench at USC a Subway! Besides that this chatter is boring! Sincerely the Roadtrainer! This is the transit geek equivalent to to comic book collectors arguing about the correct shade of red on Superman's cape.
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Post by Elson on Jul 28, 2012 2:40:12 GMT -8
Regarding the idea of plenty of colors, Bruce also pointed out that some colors are off limits for various reasons (PC but he didn't say that) and various others for ADA reasons. He mentioned that metro originally wanted to color expo aqua but that it didn't meet ADA criteria. ...but the Expo color does? Oooookaaaay....
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Post by Elson on Jul 28, 2012 2:41:22 GMT -8
Do the rail lines already have assigned numbers for operational purposes? You didn't know that? Everyone who posts on here knows The Metro Blue Line is Line 801...
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Post by wad on Jul 28, 2012 3:53:20 GMT -8
...And do you expect the hundreds of thousands of bus riders to know that already? Just sayin. It's out there, but not required to know the system. The L.A. Great Renumbering is one of the most intuitive line sequences in the country. If you didn't know anything about L.A.'s street grid, and you learned where the buses ran first, you'd get the grid down pat quickly. As for train letters, Metro seems to be leaning to a sequential A-Z in order of line opening. I'm in favor of the letters, but in the matter of the subway, the letters should be consecutive even though the Green Line opened before the subway made it west of MacArthur Park. Letters give you a max of 26 lines, but 23 effective letters (I, O and X can't be used because the first two look like 1 and 0, and in transit riders expect express service when they see an X).
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Post by carter on Jul 28, 2012 8:20:52 GMT -8
Do the rail lines already have assigned numbers for operational purposes? They do! 801 = Blue 802 = Red 803 = Green 804 = Gold 805 = Purple 806 = Expo These numbers are even used on the website in the timetables section. www.metro.net/riding/maps/
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Post by Gokhan on Jul 28, 2012 10:52:19 GMT -8
The new aqua / light-blue color they are using (the dots with the E in them) is actually how it should have been all along, although "E" wouldn't be necessary if they had got the color right the first time. For some reason, they messed it up the first time and the color they used was virtually identical to the Blue Line color. By the way, I don't think that comment about ADA is really substantiated. ADA allows any color as long as it's clear for people with bad eye sight. (By the way, about 12% of the male population is color-blind and there is not much that can be done about it.) Color-coding is not only cute but also very useful. You also definitely need color-coding on the maps; therefore, you can never completely get rid of the color-coding, regardless of whether you use names, letters, numbers, or colors for the lines.
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Post by ieko on Jul 28, 2012 17:26:17 GMT -8
The new aqua / light-blue color they are using (the dots with the E in them) is actually how it should have been all along, although "E" wouldn't be necessary if they had got the color right the first time. For some reason, they messed it up the first time and the color they used was virtually identical to the Blue Line color. By the way, I don't think that comment about ADA is really substantiated. ADA allows any color as long as it's clear for people with bad eye sight. (By the way, about 12% of the male population is color-blind and there is not much that can be done about it.) Color-coding is not only cute but also very useful. You also definitely need color-coding on the maps; therefore, you can never completely get rid of the color-coding, regardless of whether you use names, letters, numbers, or colors for the lines. ADA makes a lot of sense actually... there are colors we can't use on headsigns for instance due to ADA & emergency vehicle colors.
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Post by thanks4goingmetro on Jul 31, 2012 14:12:42 GMT -8
Bruce said that some colors can't be used for ADA purposes because they appear to be white to color blind people. Also, two shades of blue look the exact same on the limited color space of Metro's printed materials, especially when underground.
I'm quite on favorite of names such as: T-Third Street or 7-Flushing for LA Metro: example, B-Hollywood and A-Long Beach
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Post by Gokhan on Jul 31, 2012 14:51:07 GMT -8
Bruce said that some colors can't be used for ADA purposes because they appear to be white to color blind people. Also, two shades of blue look the exact same on the limited color space of Metro's printed materials, especially when underground. I'm quite on favorite of names such as: T-Third Street or 7-Flushing for LA Metro: example, B-Hollywood and A-Long Beach The new light-blue dots with the "E" in them are looking great. They are at all Expo stations now. The old, medium-blue color was bad, not distinguishable from the Blue Line's very slightly darker blue. Hopefully they will change the route maps on the trains as well. When we were passing by the numerous E dots along the way, kids on the train looking from the windows screamed, "Eee!... Eee!... Eee!... Eee!..."
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Post by Elson on Jul 31, 2012 22:22:36 GMT -8
As for train letters, Metro seems to be leaning to a sequential A-Z in order of line opening. I'm in favor of the letters, but in the matter of the subway, the letters should be consecutive even though the Green Line opened before the subway made it west of MacArthur Park. But wasn't the Red Lien given Line "A"? Or are they starting anew from the failed attempt a few years ago at giving the rail lines letter routes? Although maybe they're not in the order of opening, but of groundbreaking (the Red Line started construction before the Blue Line, despite opening later).
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