bahg
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Post by bahg on Dec 11, 2009 16:57:56 GMT -8
Why did they stop the Gold Line Express to downtown?
Also, can they do something about the noise on the platforms at the station on the freeway - maybe put up glass or plexiglass to on the barriers on the freeway to defuse the noise.
Also, what happen to the video monitors at the Lake Station?
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Post by spokker on Dec 11, 2009 17:01:31 GMT -8
Express service was discontinued when they achieved 30 minute end to end trip times with local service.
Previously the all-stop service was 35 minutes. Express was 30.
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Post by tonyw79sfv on Dec 11, 2009 17:52:12 GMT -8
I think putting glass at the barriers would be a liability. A better solution would be to create an enclosed platform with platform barrier doors, a la JFK AirTrain or Bangkok subway style; this would require the train to be automated, which I believe the Green Line is capable of, but still human controlled.
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Post by Jason Saunders on Dec 11, 2009 21:22:03 GMT -8
I think putting glass at the barriers would be a liability. A better solution would be to create an enclosed platform with platform barrier doors, a la JFK AirTrain or Bangkok subway style; this would require the train to be automated, which I believe the Green Line is capable of, but still human controlled. Perhaps a barrier between the train and the freeway the length of the station plus some. I'm fond of this noise barrier in Australia: www.connecteast.com.au/page.aspx?cid=594It's very attractive. Slightly less attractive but cheaper is this Chinese polycarbonate: detail.en.china.cn/provide/detail,1079501030.html |
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Post by masonite on Dec 11, 2009 23:40:15 GMT -8
I think putting glass at the barriers would be a liability. A better solution would be to create an enclosed platform with platform barrier doors, a la JFK AirTrain or Bangkok subway style; this would require the train to be automated, which I believe the Green Line is capable of, but still human controlled. I think the ultimate solutions is shorter headways for the Green Line and Gold Line. Of course, the ridership has to justify it so the Green Line needs a true LAX connection and the Gold Line needs the Downtown Connector. A 3 or 4 minute wait is much better than a 12-15 minute wait in stations like these. For the Gold Line, it will only have 3 stations in the freeway median in total with all the extensions, so this is really more of a Green Line issue. It seems like the Gold Line passengers are much more discretionary riders at least in this area, so that may be why it appears that it is used as much more of an excuse as to why people don't use the system here. Some sort of solution would be nice, but I have never seen plexiglass or glass barriers in a place like Chicago or San Francisco with other freeway stations either. |
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Post by darrell on Dec 11, 2009 23:51:06 GMT -8
How about just an enclosed waiting room on part of the platform? It would be a windowed place with door(s) that close to go into until you see your train approaching.
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Post by Jason Saunders on Dec 12, 2009 11:05:15 GMT -8
How about just an enclosed waiting room on part of the platform? It would be a windowed place with door(s) that close to go into until you see your train approaching. Sure, but how big should the room be, and which part of the platform? The platforms are fairly narrow. You have to account for capacity, handicap access and time to to get from the room to the train. If doors that open with the train doors are not an option, which I'm not completely sure they aren't, then a translucent/transparent station box that encompasses both the platform and train tracks with portals for the train to enter ala a subway station. I know it's expensive, which is probably why it hasn't been done. People are forced to sit in the unpleasant environment of the freeway or just not take the train. |
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Post by bluelineshawn on Dec 12, 2009 11:52:46 GMT -8
If I commuted using any of the freeway stations I'd bring earplugs. I've been thinking that Metro could sell reusable earplugs at a discount both on their company store website and at the customer service centers. They could include the earplugs as an option for people that buy monthly passes. I initially wondered if they could just give the disposable ones away, but that would create a trash problem. People are less likely to toss something that they paid $5 for. These are the kind that I mean. Metro could probably buy them for $10 and sell them for $5.  |
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Post by ieko on Dec 12, 2009 17:47:25 GMT -8
I'd rather it be noisy than cold and windy.
When the Metro Rail operations guy came by to the TC meeting a few months ago he mentioned that the Green Line trains stopped in a way that was automated, in the sense that the operator hits a button and it guides the train to stop at certain points. So why they never put up doors on the platform like they do in some other places is beyond me. Also in Chicago they have space heaters on the platforms, so at least then it isn't so bad. On the electric Metra train they have waiting rooms.
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Post by whitmanlam on Dec 12, 2009 18:39:12 GMT -8
It's definitely possible. They already have the little post barriers to prevent people from falling between the trains when it stops. A plexiglass enclosure with sliding doors would be very expensive, and what about all the pretty decorative art installations ?
In the meantime, instead of waiting on the platform for the train. Wait in the stairway leading to the platform until 1 minute before it arrives.
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Post by spokker on Dec 12, 2009 20:06:55 GMT -8
I would rather have art installations than platform doors.
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