K 22
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Post by K 22 on Nov 11, 2011 13:52:57 GMT -8
Anyone with a render or a diagram of the Bergamot (or "Olympic/26th Street" or whatever they plan to call it) station? I think I've seen all the others except for this one.
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Post by darrell on Nov 11, 2011 14:38:35 GMT -8
Anyone with a render or a diagram of the Bergamot (or "Olympic/26th Street" or whatever they plan to call it) station? I think I've seen all the others except for this one. Here's one, from last spring's public meetings. But there's a newer one of the City of Santa Monica's preferred side platforms with more entrances. UPDATED 3:00: See the September 20, 2011 Expo Urban Design Committee presentation for side-platform plan and renderings of this station.
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Post by Alexis Kasperavičius on Nov 11, 2011 14:52:27 GMT -8
Lantana Media Center To Construct 1500-Foot Wall Before Expo Line Construction Begins
With the Expo Light Rail Line set to run through the Lantana Media Center in Santa Monica, the 12-acre business campus isn’t taking any chances when it comes to dealing with the construction noise starting in 2012. Located at 3000 Olympic Blvd., the Center’s ownership is about to build a 1500-foot long wall to ensure its more than 40 tenants employing more than 1,500 people aren’t affected during the several years of construction that lie ahead. More...
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Post by carter on Nov 11, 2011 15:45:25 GMT -8
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Post by Gokhan on Nov 11, 2011 16:27:47 GMT -8
Lantana Media Center To Construct 1500-Foot Wall Before Expo Line Construction Begins
With the Expo Light Rail Line set to run through the Lantana Media Center in Santa Monica, the 12-acre business campus isn’t taking any chances when it comes to dealing with the construction noise starting in 2012. Located at 3000 Olympic Blvd., the Center’s ownership is about to build a 1500-foot long wall to ensure its more than 40 tenants employing more than 1,500 people aren’t affected during the several years of construction that lie ahead. More...
The wall wouldn't work unless it's as high as the building. Soundproof rooms would be the only option for their sensitive sound-recording equipment.
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Post by bobdavis on Nov 11, 2011 17:25:12 GMT -8
I first encountered the term "box structure" or "box tunnel" during the construction of the Gold Line about ten years ago, with the "Figueroa St. Box" at the west end of Highland Park, and the "Colorado Blvd. Box" in downtown Pasadena, which I facetiously renamed "Pasadena's first subway."
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Post by Gokhan on Nov 11, 2011 18:59:52 GMT -8
About the I-10 Box Tunnel there is Plenty of room by there Calulation By He Told Me It is Still Up to METRO to Aprove It [/color][/b][/quote] It's definitely not plenty. In fact, it was barely enough to meet the CPUC clearance requirements. The initial design didn't meet them and was rejected. Then they had work hard on it to figure it out. At the end it merely met the clearance requirements. But it has now been approved by CPUC. Metro approval wasn't the issue. It was the CPUC approval that was the problem. See the above discussion and engineering drawing.
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Post by darrell on Nov 11, 2011 21:00:15 GMT -8
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Post by RMoses on Nov 12, 2011 12:02:05 GMT -8
Lantana Media Center To Construct 1500-Foot Wall Before Expo Line Construction Begins
With the Expo Light Rail Line set to run through the Lantana Media Center in Santa Monica, the 12-acre business campus isn’t taking any chances when it comes to dealing with the construction noise starting in 2012. Located at 3000 Olympic Blvd., the Center’s ownership is about to build a 1500-foot long wall to ensure its more than 40 tenants employing more than 1,500 people aren’t affected during the several years of construction that lie ahead. More...
“We’re literally going to build this highly engineered wall at the cost of $3 – $4 million" $3MM who's building this, Expo? So they will sacrifice some noise for those to the north and double or triple the footprint as a result of reflections to the south? Not to mention the lovely experience on that section of the bike path.
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Post by Gokhan on Nov 14, 2011 23:50:30 GMT -8
Lantana Media Center To Construct 1500-Foot Wall Before Expo Line Construction Begins
With the Expo Light Rail Line set to run through the Lantana Media Center in Santa Monica, the 12-acre business campus isn’t taking any chances when it comes to dealing with the construction noise starting in 2012. Located at 3000 Olympic Blvd., the Center’s ownership is about to build a 1500-foot long wall to ensure its more than 40 tenants employing more than 1,500 people aren’t affected during the several years of construction that lie ahead. More...
“We’re literally going to build this highly engineered wall at the cost of $3 – $4 million" $3MM who's building this, Expo? So they will sacrifice some noise for those to the north and double or triple the footprint as a result of reflections to the south? Not to mention the lovely experience on that section of the bike path. Agreed. This wall makes no sense. It probably won't help isolate sound either. They should use indoor sound isolation.
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Post by Gokhan on Nov 14, 2011 23:54:44 GMT -8
I was at the Palms/Cheviot Hills Expo Line Skanska - Rados meeting tonight.
I talked to the Project Manager Mike Aparicio. He says all problems have been solved. Kenter Canyon Storm Drain turned out to be extremely strong. The bricks used in the structure have an unbelievable yield strength.
17th St and 26th St Stations are being redesigned at the request of Santa Monica, who is also funding them. There are also improvements at other stations.
So, Phase 2 is on track and currently scheduled to open in 2015.
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Post by fissure on Nov 15, 2011 0:37:21 GMT -8
It was funny listening to the NFSR people there ranting about how the 40 seconds the gates would be down wasn't exact enough because it didn't count the time it took for them to lower. Because heading to Pasadena with a stopwatch is impossible to do.
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Post by Gokhan on Nov 15, 2011 10:36:51 GMT -8
It was funny listening to the NSFR people there ranting about how the 40 seconds the gates would be down wasn't exact enough because it didn't count the time it took for them to lower. It's ironic that Neighbors for Smart Rail have become rail geeks. LOL
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Post by bobdavis on Nov 15, 2011 12:27:14 GMT -8
Thanks for the update on Phase 2. Maybe we'll get Expo 2 and the first segment of the Gold Line Foothill Extension opening the same year. Just as long as it's not the same week!
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Post by rubbertoe on Nov 15, 2011 12:50:41 GMT -8
Just as long as it's not the same week! I believe this falls under the "good problems to have category". Oops, looks like we will be opening up several light rail lines this week. Gives me goose bumps just thinking about it RT
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Post by masonite on Nov 15, 2011 15:20:30 GMT -8
I was at the Palms/Cheviot Hills Expo Line Skanska - Rados meeting tonight. I talked to the Project Manager Mike Aparicio. He says all problems have been solved. Kenter Canyon Storm Drain turned out to be extremely strong. The bricks used in the structure have an unbelievable yield strength. 17th St and 26th St Stations are being redesigned at the request of Santa Monica, who is also funding them. There are also improvements at other stations. So, Phase 2 is on track and currently scheduled to open in 2015. Thanks for the update. Did they mention how much of the design was done? Last I heard it was 60% or so, but we should be past that now. Any other updates on construction in the next couple months. I suppose the big thing is the bridge footings that may start construction in Jan. or Feb.
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Post by James Fujita on Nov 15, 2011 15:42:39 GMT -8
Just as long as it's not the same week! I believe this falls under the "good problems to have category". Oops, looks like we will be opening up several light rail lines this week. Gives me goose bumps just thinking about it RT As exciting as it would be to have several rail lines opening at once, it honestly would be better to have a little cushion between openings. Consider that TV news, radio, newspapers only have a limited amount of space to work with. I know from experience, editors get bored, even annoyed at too much of "the same thing" going on at the same time — whether that is weather, fires, earthquake, football playoffs, etc. Therefore, one or the other (or both) is likely to get less overall coverage. Also, consider the transit advocate, who has to decide whether to go to Santa Monica or to Pasadena or Azusa for the grand opening celebration for the photographs, the transit organization volunteer table, the line for the free rides. Same goes for politicians, musical entertainment and so forth. Finally, the public can always suffer from rail transit fatigue. Yes, it is great that we are able to work on several projects at once, but it is really better if the openings can be staggered, to get the full, maximum impact from each.
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Post by carter on Nov 15, 2011 17:11:11 GMT -8
Finally, the public can always suffer from rail transit fatigue. #NewYorkProblems
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Post by Gokhan on Nov 15, 2011 18:09:23 GMT -8
Did they mention how much of the design was done? Last I heard it was 60% or so, but we should be past that now. Any other updates on construction in the next couple months. I suppose the big thing is the bridge footings that may start construction in Jan. or Feb. I asked Mike Aparicio, the Project Director of Skanska - Rados, about the design percentage and he said 65% now. He also said that they now submitted the design at this stage to various entities (cities, Metro, LADOT, Caltrans, etc.) for approval. I missed the presentation but I was told that they said in the presentation that they wanted to start construction around February - March.
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Post by crzwdjk on Nov 17, 2011 13:51:26 GMT -8
Finally, the public can always suffer from rail transit fatigue. #NewYorkProblems Yeah, New York has no shortage of new transit openings! I mean, there's been a whole one new subway station built in the past 20 years! And before that, there were about 8 stations opened between 1955 and 1991, and considerably more closed. The last time NYC had subway expansion on a scale comparable to that of LA was sometime in the late 1940s.
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Post by LAofAnaheim on Nov 17, 2011 14:06:14 GMT -8
Yeah, New York has no shortage of new transit openings! I mean, there's been a whole one new subway station built in the past 20 years! And before that, there were about 8 stations opened between 1955 and 1991, and considerably more closed. The last time NYC had subway expansion on a scale comparable to that of LA was sometime in the late 1940s. True. The transit excitement in Los Angeles is much greater than any other city in the US. We have 3 rail lines environmentally cleared, funded and ready/under construction - Expo Line (I count it as one line), Crenshaw Line and Foothill Gold Line. In 2 years, we'll have 5 lines under construction - Expo, Crenshaw, Foothill Gold Line, Downtown Connector and Westside Subway Extension. I can't think of any other city that would have 5 simulatenous transit lines under project. Of course, I'm not counting the Orange Line!
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Post by carter on Nov 17, 2011 17:39:43 GMT -8
Yeah, New York has no shortage of new transit openings! I mean, there's been a whole one new subway station built in the past 20 years! And before that, there were about 8 stations opened between 1955 and 1991, and considerably more closed. The last time NYC had subway expansion on a scale comparable to that of LA was sometime in the late 1940s. True. The transit excitement in Los Angeles is much greater than any other city in the US. We have 3 rail lines environmentally cleared, funded and ready/under construction - Expo Line (I count it as one line), Crenshaw Line and Foothill Gold Line. In 2 years, we'll have 5 lines under construction - Expo, Crenshaw, Foothill Gold Line, Downtown Connector and Westside Subway Extension. I can't think of any other city that would have 5 simulatenous transit lines under project. Of course, I'm not counting the Orange Line! Houston's about to have 3 going at once, but representing only 14 total miles. Expo + Crenshaw + Gold Line Foothill = 25 miles Regional Connector + Subway = 12
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Post by bzcat on Nov 18, 2011 10:10:06 GMT -8
Yeah, New York has no shortage of new transit openings! I mean, there's been a whole one new subway station built in the past 20 years! And before that, there were about 8 stations opened between 1955 and 1991, and considerably more closed. The last time NYC had subway expansion on a scale comparable to that of LA was sometime in the late 1940s. True. The transit excitement in Los Angeles is much greater than any other city in the US. We have 3 rail lines environmentally cleared, funded and ready/under construction - Expo Line (I count it as one line), Crenshaw Line and Foothill Gold Line. In 2 years, we'll have 5 lines under construction - Expo, Crenshaw, Foothill Gold Line, Downtown Connector and Westside Subway Extension. I can't think of any other city that would have 5 simulatenous transit lines under project. Of course, I'm not counting the Orange Line! Don't forget Van Nuys corridor. It is likely to get thru EIR by 2014 or 2015. And the Wilshire Blvd busway will begin construction soon too.
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Post by James Fujita on Nov 21, 2011 16:15:01 GMT -8
Well, I have to say that it will be harder to drum up the same level of excitement for a bus corridor as for a rail corridor.
And, again, it would be better not to have all of these opening at the same time, even if they are under construction concurrently.
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Post by matthewb on Nov 22, 2011 13:22:49 GMT -8
Well, I have to say that it will be harder to drum up the same level of excitement for a bus corridor as for a rail corridor. And, again, it would be better not to have all of these opening at the same time, even if they are under construction concurrently. There's no worry about them opening at the same time. The probability of that is extremely low, and Metro could potentially coordinate to avoid that.
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Post by James Fujita on Nov 22, 2011 15:52:44 GMT -8
Well, I have to say that it will be harder to drum up the same level of excitement for a bus corridor as for a rail corridor. And, again, it would be better not to have all of these opening at the same time, even if they are under construction concurrently. There's no worry about them opening at the same time. The probability of that is extremely low, and Metro could potentially coordinate to avoid that. I know. I was just riffing off of this part of the conversation. I highly doubt that two would open at the same time or that Metro would desire it.
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Post by darrell on Nov 28, 2011 11:18:02 GMT -8
... The stone retailer on the northeast corner of Bundy and Exposition, with quite a row of trees beyond. The former FedEx is behind me on the northwest corner. ... ... As of last Saturday the buildings on the west side of Barrington (lower photo) and everything behind the facade of the stone retailer at Bunday (upper photo) were demolished.
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Post by masonite on Nov 29, 2011 9:26:25 GMT -8
FROM PHASE-1 to S-Centenella Is now All Cleared out Time to work on ROW only 4 Building at 17th street Santa Monica to come down Not quite as when I went to the gym this morning, the Eskandari Stone Building at Bundy and Expo is still standing (at least the facade of it).
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Post by carter on Nov 29, 2011 10:23:01 GMT -8
FROM PHASE-1 to S-Centenella Is now All Cleared out Time to work on ROW only 4 Building at 17th street Santa Monica to come down In a convo I had with a Skanska-Rados rep, it sounds like they'll be spending the next year or so working on the right of way: moving utilities, cleaning up contaminated soil. In the meantime, S-R will start working on some of the bridge foundations starting next year. Then 2013-2015 is when they'll be doing the bulk of the visible construction.
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Post by Gokhan on Nov 29, 2011 13:54:14 GMT -8
At the Sepulveda Blvd Yard there is a Foundation Drilling Machine Wow, already? Are we talking about these giant drills? You should post a pic.
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