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Post by f ron on Aug 8, 2014 12:52:35 GMT -8
The curb face on Military looks high but it is level with the crossing. I imagine the pavement will be replaced and leveled with the curbs. Driving by the Westwood crossing this morning at 7 AM there was a flatbed truck with teal station awning supports. Since the Westwood station seems to have already all of them installed would these be for the Palms or Sepulveda station? I will shoot some photos this weekend of the progress around my house on Exposition/Military. True. The curb face is at grade with the crossing yet it's about 18-24" above street grade. Prior to this development anyone turning off Exposition on to Military would go over the hump at the crossing. This new curb face is no longer at grade with the curb face opposite it across the street. The opposite side can't be raised because that grade is that of the nieghborhood. It's all very curious and not the least bit obvious. There's gotta be component missing that will make it all apparent but it's hard to imagine what. Attachments:
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Post by culvercitylocke on Aug 8, 2014 12:56:01 GMT -8
except for lincoln blvd, the grade crossings are all small ramps of asphalt, very cheap, won't last long, that's how they 'level' the road and track, they don't rebuild the road properly. Venice Blvd is also in a sad situation, they're rebuilding the center lanes they destroyed, but leaving the heavily damaged other four lanes as is. Sepulveda at the Fox Hills Mall has a rebuilt street that was done correctly, it's a shame Venice couldn't get the same treatment, but I guess that's public vs private projects.
edit: just saw FRon's post and realized I misinterpreted what we were talking about.
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Post by f ron on Aug 8, 2014 13:01:18 GMT -8
except for lincoln blvd, the grade crossings are all small ramps of asphalt, very cheap, won't last long, that's how they 'level' the road and track, they don't rebuild the road properly. Seriously? That's what we're looking at? A lane that's an asphalt ramp along side the at-grade road? Sounds awful, if I understand you correctly. Also, this section of street is prone to flooding when it rains. I know they're replacing the storm drains and all but it sounds like a half-assed solution. edit: Just saw CulverLocke's edit and realized my reaction was based on a misunderstanding!! SO, any guesses as to what's up here?!
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Post by joshuanickel on Aug 8, 2014 13:05:48 GMT -8
Driving by the Westwood crossing this morning at 7 AM there was a flatbed truck with teal station awning supports. Since the Westwood station seems to have already all of them installed would these be for the Palms or Sepulveda station? Thye supports that have been installed already were for the art panels and the variable message signs. If you look closely at the platform, there are additional support footings for the poles that will hold the actual "canopy" Here are pictures from phase one that shows the different supports:
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Post by masonite on Aug 8, 2014 21:46:10 GMT -8
Looks like there is potentially a major problem with the settling of the MSE walls at Bundy. Does anyone know the behind the scenes issue with this? Maybe this is not as bad as it sounds.
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Post by joshuanickel on Aug 8, 2014 22:11:53 GMT -8
Looks like there is potentially a major problem with the settling of the MSE walls at Bundy. Does anyone know the behind the scenes issue with this? Maybe this is not as bad as it sounds. According to the board report, it has delayed track installation at this location: Phase 1 and Phase 2 Project Update
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Post by RMoses on Aug 9, 2014 7:41:03 GMT -8
except for lincoln blvd, the grade crossings are all small ramps of asphalt, very cheap, won't last long, that's how they 'level' the road and track, they don't rebuild the road properly. Venice Blvd is also in a sad situation, they're rebuilding the center lanes they destroyed, but leaving the heavily damaged other four lanes as is. Sepulveda at the Fox Hills Mall has a rebuilt street that was done correctly, it's a shame Venice couldn't get the same treatment, but I guess that's public vs private projects. edit: just saw FRon's post and realized I misinterpreted what we were talking about.The remaining grade crossings in Santa Monica will be all cement, SM is paying for it.
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Post by joshuanickel on Aug 9, 2014 9:57:59 GMT -8
except for lincoln blvd, the grade crossings are all small ramps of asphalt, very cheap, won't last long, that's how they 'level' the road and track, they don't rebuild the road properly. Venice Blvd is also in a sad situation, they're rebuilding the center lanes they destroyed, but leaving the heavily damaged other four lanes as is. Sepulveda at the Fox Hills Mall has a rebuilt street that was done correctly, it's a shame Venice couldn't get the same treatment, but I guess that's public vs private projects. edit: just saw FRon's post and realized I misinterpreted what we were talking about.The remaining grade crossings in Santa Monica will be all cement, SM is paying for it. Actually only the crossings along Colorado will be concrete. Those are at 17th, 14th, 11th, Lincoln, 7th, 6th, and 5th: Phase 2 SRJV Colorado Avenue Intersections Concrete Pavement Contract ModificationThe crossings at Stewart, 26th, 20th, and 19th are just like the ones at Westwood, Overland, and Military with precast grade crossing panels with asphalt leading up to them. But as you can tell by the curbs that are being constructed at Westwood and at Military, the roadway is not in its final configuration and that they are not done and we should not judge them yet as to what the roadway will be like. Also at Venice, they are going to redo the entire road. They have to do it in stages. First they did the center median. Now they have moved on to doing the south side of the road. The final paving will take place at the very end: Venice Blvd Street Widening and Roadway ImprovementsPhase 2 SRJV Venice Boulevard Roadway Contract ModificationPhoto By Expo: Photo By: @topomodesto
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Post by masonite on Aug 9, 2014 18:50:02 GMT -8
Looks like there is potentially a major problem with the settling of the MSE walls at Bundy. Does anyone know the behind the scenes issue with this? Maybe this is not as bad as it sounds. According to the board report, it has delayed track installation at this location: Phase 1 and Phase 2 Project UpdateThey also have delayed their quarterly construction update meetings. They were supposed to be a couple weeks ago and they still haven't been scheduled.
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Post by f ron on Aug 9, 2014 21:47:11 GMT -8
They also have delayed their quarterly construction update meetings. They were supposed to be a couple weeks ago and they still haven't been scheduled. I was told last week over the phone by an Expo Authority Public Relations rep that there would be no meeting until September. The reason given that attendance is too low in the summer months.
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Post by LAofAnaheim on Aug 10, 2014 1:00:17 GMT -8
Venice Blvd has been widened to accommodate an extra left turn lane? So now we're setting up more auto convenience to compete with Metro rail?
Isn't the reason people of LA don't take rail because our roads make it so convenient to drive? Why would we expand the roadway of Venice blvd?
More auto-oriented development = more drivers = more traffic..........a vicious circle.
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Post by joshuanickel on Aug 10, 2014 8:48:01 GMT -8
Venice Blvd has been widened to accommodate an extra left turn lane? So now we're setting up more auto convenience to compete with Metro rail? Isn't the reason people of LA don't take rail because our roads make it so convenient to drive? Why would we expand the roadway of Venice blvd? More auto-oriented development = more drivers = more traffic..........a vicious circle. Since Caltrans has control over Venice, they may of requested that expo install it since they were already tearing up the roadway. Caltrans first priority is cars. They could care less about the expo line.
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Post by joshuanickel on Aug 10, 2014 23:26:55 GMT -8
Driving by the Westwood crossing this morning at 7 AM there was a flatbed truck with teal station awning supports. Since the Westwood station seems to have already all of them installed would these be for the Palms or Sepulveda station? Thye supports that have been installed already were for the art panels and the variable message signs. If you look closely at the platform, there are additional support footings for the poles that will hold the actual "canopy" Here are pictures from phase one that shows the different supports: Driving by tonight, they have installed the Canopy Supports at Westwood Station and Palms Station. All that is missing is the curved roof that attaches to the top of the supports.
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Post by joshuanickel on Aug 11, 2014 10:29:46 GMT -8
The remaining grade crossings in Santa Monica will be all cement, SM is paying for it. Actually only the crossings along Colorado will be concrete. Those are at 17th, 14th, 11th, Lincoln, 7th, 6th, and 5th: Phase 2 SRJV Colorado Avenue Intersections Concrete Pavement Contract ModificationThe crossings at Stewart, 26th, 20th, and 19th are just like the ones at Westwood, Overland, and Military with precast grade crossing panels with asphalt leading up to them. But as you can tell by the curbs that are being constructed at Westwood and at Military, the roadway is not in its final configuration and that they are not done and we should not judge them yet as to what the roadway will be like. Expo just posted this to their facebook page which should show us that the roadways are not in their final state and will be fixed: Expo Light Rail Line - FacebookWe are excited to announce that work crews have completed the last track crossing in Los Angeles. A total of 14 crossings have been installed and only 2 remain in Santa Monica. Stay tuned for final paving and street improvements to follow.
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Post by masonite on Aug 11, 2014 10:34:45 GMT -8
Actually only the crossings along Colorado will be concrete. Those are at 17th, 14th, 11th, Lincoln, 7th, 6th, and 5th: Phase 2 SRJV Colorado Avenue Intersections Concrete Pavement Contract ModificationThe crossings at Stewart, 26th, 20th, and 19th are just like the ones at Westwood, Overland, and Military with precast grade crossing panels with asphalt leading up to them. But as you can tell by the curbs that are being constructed at Westwood and at Military, the roadway is not in its final configuration and that they are not done and we should not judge them yet as to what the roadway will be like. Expo just posted this to their facebook page which should show us that the roadways are not in their final state and will be fixed: Expo Light Rail Line - FacebookWe are excited to announce that work crews have completed the last track crossing in Los Angeles. A total of 14 crossings have been installed and only 2 remain in Santa Monica. Stay tuned for final paving and street improvements to follow.
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Yep, I just went by Barrington about a half hour ago and they had finished the track crossing. I think that was the last one (done this weekend). Still curious about that MSE wall.
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Post by andop2 on Aug 11, 2014 11:03:07 GMT -8
Venice Blvd has been widened to accommodate an extra left turn lane? So now we're setting up more auto convenience to compete with Metro rail? Isn't the reason people of LA don't take rail because our roads make it so convenient to drive? Why would we expand the roadway of Venice blvd? More auto-oriented development = more drivers = more traffic..........a vicious circle. Actually, they "restored" the extra left turn lane that existed before construction. So all they are doing is reverting to the status quo ante.
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Post by joshuanickel on Aug 11, 2014 12:44:00 GMT -8
Thye supports that have been installed already were for the art panels and the variable message signs. If you look closely at the platform, there are additional support footings for the poles that will hold the actual "canopy" Here are pictures from phase one that shows the different supports: Driving by tonight, they have installed the Canopy Supports at Westwood Station and Palms Station. All that is missing is the curved roof that attaches to the top of the supports. Here are some photos from today of Westwood Station:
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Post by tramfan on Aug 11, 2014 12:53:57 GMT -8
This morning at 7 AM there was another load of rail waiting on track 3 at Westwood station. They will probably drag it up the Sepulveda MSE ramp again. Made some photos as well; I'll post them with Dwight.
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Post by Philip on Aug 13, 2014 8:40:50 GMT -8
I've been biking through Palms on my way home a lot recently. I've noticed the OCS poles have a little more equipment added to them every day. The area looks like it's just about ready for trolley wire.
Heading east, the OCS poles stop past Bagley. Not sure why, but I would imagine they should be installed soon.
Progress is slowly, but finally beginning to happen around Culver City station. All the remaining falsework from the bridge is gone, but much of the area is still fenced off and they've only just begun reconstructing lanes on Venice. This, combined with all the nearby TODs under construction, make the area a borderline war zone.
It's a shame this portion seems is proving one of the longest to finish, since the disruption isn't doing any favors for the station and ease of making nearby bus transfers.
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Post by joshuanickel on Aug 14, 2014 12:37:13 GMT -8
Driving by Westwood Station today, there was a flatbed trailer waiting to off load four big spools of wire. Possibly for the OCS System.
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Post by joshuanickel on Aug 14, 2014 12:39:45 GMT -8
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Post by tramfan on Aug 14, 2014 13:16:09 GMT -8
Rail is placed at the Sepulveda Station, hard to take photos from down the roadway. Duct bundles and MSE wall caps are being encased possibly ready for concrete next week. The rail for the Sepulveda ramp is patiently waiting at the Westwood station...
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Post by tramfan on Aug 19, 2014 12:53:46 GMT -8
Lots of activity this week at Military/Sepulveda. Herzog has been working every day on the crossover and signaling. They cut the rail to make an electrical interruption. The rail that was waiting at Westwood station has been moved up Sepulveda and they're staging another delivery at Westwood station. A survey engineer at the dip between Sepulveda and Sawtelle told me that rail will be installed on the Pico structure beginning next week. The MSE ramp up to the Sepulveda station was buzzing with activity this morning; duct trenches were dug, the North side cap of the MSE wall was being removed and the South side was being installed with a concrete base layer for the ramp up to the station. They were working hard under the station on the elevators. Passing by the Palms station they were installing the yellow tiles at the edge of the platform. I will send Dwight some photos tonight.
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Post by joshuanickel on Aug 19, 2014 15:03:32 GMT -8
Next crossing due up is 7th Street:
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Post by darrell on Aug 19, 2014 21:01:17 GMT -8
Here are the views from the top of Bed Bath & Beyond as of this afternoon. Looking east, about the only change is the tracks across Barrington. Looking west, zoomed in more to show as much as I can from there of the MSE section from Bundy to Centinela, the Centinela bridge, and the MSE ramp down by the maintenance facility.
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Post by darrell on Aug 19, 2014 22:22:28 GMT -8
This is a different perspective on the Santa Monica terminus station. I was walking around the new downtown Tongva Park this afternoon, then headed back north, and snapped this from the south end of the Main Street arch bridge over the freeway. You see the Sears parking lot in the middle distance, then Expo's retaining walls on the left and red Metro buses waiting on 5th Street on the right.
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Post by joshuanickel on Aug 22, 2014 15:35:14 GMT -8
Expo will be doing some track work and the street improvements on 20th street over a couple of weekends requiring full road closures. I am not sure what the track work is since the grade crossing is already installed.
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Post by Gokhan on Aug 24, 2014 15:24:56 GMT -8
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Post by tramfan on Aug 28, 2014 12:25:38 GMT -8
At the Sepulveda station the first canopy supports are installed. The hydraulic shaft for the Eastide elevator has been put in. Elevator cages and canopy supports have been placed at the Bundy station. The installation of all the counter weights for the OCS between the 10 freeway box and Bagley Ave seems to indicate that the OCS will probably start being installed soon if not next week. The elevators at Palms station seem to be operational. The MSE ramp East of Sepulveda station has the mid duct bundles encased in concrete and the MSE wall topping is also done. Rail is patiently waiting between Westwood and Military on longbed lorries; a connection between Sepulveda station where rail is already laid and Military should be coming soon. I sent some photos to Expoline fan.
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Post by joshuanickel on Aug 29, 2014 15:45:36 GMT -8
This should provide relief to the people who thought that Expo would leave the roadways in their current condition:
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