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Post by culvercitylocke on Jul 15, 2019 15:45:38 GMT -8
I guess there is no hope of killing this zombie 2B extension to exburb  I was hoping the funding shortfall will put it on permanent ice but damn Measure M... why did we pass it! (that was a joke... Measure M is great. But I'm not joking about this white elephant extension... such a waste of money) It’s not the best use of money , but if it had managed the per mile cost of 2A, it’d have been a good use of money |
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Post by numble on Aug 2, 2019 20:26:38 GMT -8
The San Gabriel Valley COG will meet on August 8 to consider authorizing $126 million in Measure M funds for the project.
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Post by numble on Aug 11, 2019 16:45:16 GMT -8
The San Gabriel Valley COG authorized the $126 million for the Gold Line extension, so construction contract will probably be awarded on Wednesday, 8/14/19:
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Post by culvercitylocke on Aug 14, 2019 17:47:48 GMT -8
In the bestLos Angeles transit news of 2019, Ron tutor did not get the gold line contract! Kiewet did
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Post by culvercitylocke on Oct 5, 2019 12:06:17 GMT -8
Official second groundbreaking took place and final contracts signed la.streetsblog.org/2019/10/04/foothill-gold-line-to-pomona-is-officially-under-construction/It’s still crazy stupid expensive at 800+ million for the Pomona segment, given its mostly at grade in a dedicated right of way it should be about thirty million per mile. But at least it’s not as insanely expensive as building the dumb final section to Claremont and beyond would entail, so it’s good they cut this thing short and let us all hope they do NOT find half a billion dollars to burn on the final two miles of extension. |
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Post by jdrcrasher on Sept 5, 2020 13:44:02 GMT -8
Don’t have any photos at the moment, but noticed on my way through Glendora last week they recently closed off the Grand Ave./Foothill Blvd and Glendora Ave. crossings and installed chainlink fences and barricades... presumably to begin overpass work??
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Post by numble on Sept 6, 2020 10:09:16 GMT -8
Don’t have any photos at the moment, but noticed on my way through Glendora last week they recently closed off the Grand Ave./Foothill Blvd and Glendora Ave. crossings and installed chainlink fences and barricades... presumably to begin overpass work?? Here is the August 2020 status report, which says progress is at 15.3% and shows the planned upcoming work. foothillgoldline.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/2020-09-09-Board-meeting-packet.pdf |
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Post by numble on Oct 29, 2020 8:55:59 GMT -8
September 2020 status report for Foothill Gold Line extension: 15.9%
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Post by numble on Dec 10, 2020 12:59:36 GMT -8
Foothill Gold Line October 2020 status report: 16.7% complete.
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Post by numble on Dec 22, 2020 10:55:20 GMT -8
Foothill Gold Line October 2020 status report: 18.7% complete (+2%). This project is moving fast, probably since it is at-grade and on an existing railroad right-of-way.
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Post by numble on Jan 29, 2021 13:03:50 GMT -8
December 2020 status report for Foothill Gold Line extension to Pomona.
20.4% (+1.7%).
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Post by bzcat on Feb 2, 2021 21:52:19 GMT -8
I guess the delay is all due to COVID? There is no tunneling or anything complicated so kind of surprised by the slow progress.
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Post by numble on Mar 7, 2021 16:50:21 GMT -8
The project is at 24.7% and the contractor has now updated its schedule forecast. It has added 7 months to its scheduled completion, and now predicts completion to be October 24, 2024 (3 months earlier than contract) instead of finishing on January 16, 2024 (1 year earlier than contract). It says the reasons are certain cities not granting requests to allow double work shifts, delays in obtaining permits, a better understanding of the project, and doing additional work before handing over to Metro (instead of doing that additional work while Metro starts testing).
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Post by numble on Mar 11, 2021 20:16:06 GMT -8
The Foothill Gold Line Construction Authority's CEO, Habib Balian, stated that it is unlikely that they'll find the funding in time to exercise the option under the current contract to build the project from Pomona to Montclair:
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Post by culvercitylocke on May 19, 2021 14:25:59 GMT -8
Streetsblog has some videos of the impressive Gold line construction progress. la.streetsblog.org/2021/05/19/foothill-gold-line-construction-proceeding-smoothly-community-meeting-tonight/For whatever reason, the gold line projects have been blessed with incredibly skilled project management, which shows in every facet of the project and construction. Perhaps it's reaping the fruit of the combined efforts of Adam Schiff and David Dreier decades ago in pushing the gold line and extensions through Congress and the state legislature and providing the structure of construction authority separate from RTD/Metro? |
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Post by bzcat on May 20, 2021 13:25:15 GMT -8
I think it is mostly because the uncomplicated construction. The line is almost entirely running in the existing rail right of way so there is no surprised buried underground.
Despite that, the project has also seen significant delays per Numble's previous tweets.
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Post by numble on May 21, 2021 10:09:52 GMT -8
I think it is mostly because the uncomplicated construction. The line is almost entirely running in the existing rail right of way so there is no surprised buried underground. Despite that, the project has also seen significant delays per Numble's previous tweets. Yeah, that's good memory. Initially the contractor forecast a January 2024 completion. It was trending below schedule for a couple of months and they revised the schedule to complete in October 2024. |
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Post by culvercitylocke on May 21, 2021 16:17:45 GMT -8
I think it is mostly because the uncomplicated construction. The line is almost entirely running in the existing rail right of way so there is no surprised buried underground. Despite that, the project has also seen significant delays per Numble's previous tweets. In the video theres a lot of utility relocation going on. and the freight rail relocation is pretty complicated in its own right. |
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Post by bzcat on May 21, 2021 18:17:24 GMT -8
Utility relocation in the rail right of way is not nearly as complicated as under the streets of DTLA. And no tunneling means no spooky anomaly like San Vicente and Beverly Hills. So yea, I expected it to be mostly smooth sailing.
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Post by jdrcrasher on May 22, 2021 6:07:32 GMT -8
Utility relocation in the rail right of way is not nearly as complicated as under the streets of DTLA. And no tunneling means no spooky anomaly like San Vicente and Beverly Hills. So yea, I expected it to be mostly smooth sailing. Yeah last time I checked there weren't any electrical, water, sewer, gas, or high-pressure oil mains running underneath the BNSF right of way.  |
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Post by numble on Jun 21, 2021 12:30:45 GMT -8
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Post by culvercitylocke on Jun 21, 2021 13:11:00 GMT -8
Utility relocation in the rail right of way is not nearly as complicated as under the streets of DTLA. And no tunneling means no spooky anomaly like San Vicente and Beverly Hills. So yea, I expected it to be mostly smooth sailing. and yet it was utility relocation in the rail right of way (and the legally required upgrades they had to do to utilities they uncovered they never knew where there) during the Blue Line construction that caused most of the delays and overages during that line's construction. Just being in a rail right of way doesn't mean the utilities will be easy. |
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Post by brady12 on Jun 22, 2021 16:21:05 GMT -8
I really don’t get this line at all. It’s going to take forever to get from the end of this line to Downtown, nevermind Santa Monica.
If it had an express track or something I’d get it. But I really don’t
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Post by bzcat on Jun 23, 2021 21:30:42 GMT -8
I really don’t get this line at all. It’s going to take forever to get from the end of this line to Downtown, nevermind Santa Monica. If it had an express track or something I’d get it. But I really don’t It's a white elephant project and the price we had to pay to get Measure M passed, well, that's the theory anyway. No way to prove what would have happened if 2B wasn't included in Measure M. The worst part is after leaving San Dimas, the line will run parallel to Metrolink (in fact, using the same right of way), except it will have fewer stations than Metrolink. SGV and the entire region would have benefited more if we use the money of 2B to upgrade Metrolink SB line with all day running DME service. |
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Post by fissure on Jun 24, 2021 17:08:25 GMT -8
Fewer? Are you counting the fairgrounds platform? That's actually just west of the split and only gets service a few days each year.
The worst part is all the park-and-ride, including that San Dimas station is too far west, instead of building a single station with a big garage at Lone Hill Ave since it's right off both freeways.
It's too bad the old PE ROW was built over between Indian Hill and Cambridge. It's still pretty close, even at Montclair, and then they wouldn't have to relocate the Metrolink tracks.
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Post by culvercitylocke on Jun 25, 2021 14:18:26 GMT -8
I really don’t get this line at all. It’s going to take forever to get from the end of this line to Downtown, nevermind Santa Monica. If it had an express track or something I’d get it. But I really don’t There would be almost no metro rail, other than the blue line, if we didn't have the foothill gold line. back in the bad old days of the 80s and 90s as the RTD was collapsing into MTA and the LATimes had their massive vendetta against rail construction (resulting in a ban on using prop A/C money for subway construction), and the bus riders union got metro under a consent decree (to stop metro's diabolical deliberately racist schemes to gut bus service for communities of color in order to "fund" rail construction) republican HoR member David Drier was an enthusiastic rail supporter and was largely responsible for securing continual federal funding for rail construction in Los Angeles, but it did mean that the gold line, which served Drier's district, was atop the queue after Red and Blue construction (Green line construction was mandated by another consent decree, and so was a separate issue). Eventually, a young state representative serving the same area, a democrat, Adam Schiff, worked with Drier on clearing the way for a lot of state issues, which also meant that the Gold Line needed to be atop the queue. after the gold line opened, the dam broke in the early 2000s, as rail YIMBY community groups were created and began to lobby for rail. Friends for Expo was a game changer for Los Angeles, and it's success getting Expo built and funded is what convinced politicians that Measure R was possible--rail funding hadn't happened on a wide scale after prop C because republican appointed state supreme court justices had wrongly imposed the prop 13 two-thirds threshhold on transit taxes in the interim (neither prop A or C were subject to prop 13 restrictions because they're not subject to it in the text of prop 13, activist insane republican judges created that requirement in the mid 90s). Frankly LA politicians and certainly not the media, believe a two thirds majority for measure R was possible, they were shocked when it passed, good on Villaraigosa for pushing so hard for it. |
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Post by numble on Jul 23, 2021 13:56:07 GMT -8
June 2021 status report for the Foothill Gold Line extension. 34.7%, +1.8% since May.
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Post by numble on Aug 30, 2021 9:21:47 GMT -8
July 2021 status report for Foothill Gold Line. 36.2% complete, +1.5% since June.
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Post by numble on Sept 24, 2021 11:18:41 GMT -8
August 2021 status report for Foothill Gold Line. 37.4%, +1.2%.
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Post by numble on Oct 12, 2021 10:56:55 GMT -8
Here’s the status report for the Foothill extension as of the end of September 2021. 38.6% complete. There are typos, so the chart summary says August instead of September. The forecast completion date is now just 19 days earlier than the contracted completion date. That’s a 28 day delay from the last report. From the start of the project to January of this year, they were forecasting that they would complete 353 days earlier than the contracted completion date. The trends don’t look good. foothillgoldline.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/2021-10-13-Board-Item-7e.pdf |
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