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Post by jamesinclair on Jun 1, 2011 12:45:59 GMT -8
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Post by James Fujita on Jun 1, 2011 14:43:04 GMT -8
It's been ages since I've been to Magic Mountain. Too coaster oriented/ not enough alternatives.
I vaguely remember riding the monorail the last time I was there (which says how long ago that was). Wasn't that impressed with it, although I do remember the "underground" station underneath the "mountain".
I always thought that the Disneyland monorail did very little and went nowhere, but I seem to recall that the Magic Mountain monorail did less and went even more nowhere ;D (The whole entire Magic Mountain park is very transit unfriendly anyways)
Sorry, this isn't exactly a heartfelt touching lament.
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Post by bobdavis on Jun 1, 2011 17:43:23 GMT -8
Then there was the suspended monorail a the LA County Fairgrounds. How long has that been gone?
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Post by James Fujita on Jun 1, 2011 20:27:14 GMT -8
Sorry, don't know the answer to that trivia question. At least they now have a connection to Metrolink. Never been a county fair person, but if anything would get me out there, that would.
If Disney WANTED, they could have a rail link to Disneyland. They could even extend the monorail off the property; I bet Anaheim would let the Mouse do that.
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Post by tonyw79sfv on Jun 1, 2011 20:38:55 GMT -8
Sorry, don't know the answer to that trivia question. At least they now have a connection to Metrolink. Never been a county fair person, but if anything would get me out there, that would. If Disney WANTED, they could have a rail link to Disneyland. They could even extend the monorail off the property; I bet Anaheim would let the Mouse do that. The monorail is shown in the California High Speed Rail Authority's conceptual animation for the Anaheim ARTIC station.
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Post by thanks4goingmetro on Jun 2, 2011 11:30:54 GMT -8
Sorry, don't know the answer to that trivia question. At least they now have a connection to Metrolink. Never been a county fair person, but if anything would get me out there, that would. If Disney WANTED, they could have a rail link to Disneyland. They could even extend the monorail off the property; I bet Anaheim would let the Mouse do that. The monorail is shown in the California High Speed Rail Authority's conceptual animation for the Anaheim ARTIC station. That's a good catch! Let's hope it comes to fruition--
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Post by James Fujita on Jun 2, 2011 13:54:09 GMT -8
The proposed design for ARTIC has changed somewhat since that video was made: www.articinfo.com/I actually like Cal HSR's vision for the station better than the more recent images. Cal HSR shows a building capable of handling Metrolink and HSR on separate tracks. The new illustrations are more focused on building a big building. Bringing the monorail to ARTIC or even Anaheim Stadium station would be a great idea... but that's entirely up to Disney. I'd be just as happy with an Anaheim streetcar project, one that served more than Disney.
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Post by jamesinclair on Jun 2, 2011 15:14:22 GMT -8
I seem to recall that the Magic Mountain monorail did less and went even more nowhere ;D (The whole entire Magic Mountain park is very transit unfriendly anyways) . Apparently it went from 3 stations to 2 stations to 1 station (loop ride) to none at all. The park also had an aerial transit system, also long gone. Also, I recommend paying the park a visit if you havent been in 10 years. Lots of new rides. Yes, all roller coasters, but some pretty damn amazing ones.
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Post by James Fujita on Jun 2, 2011 16:13:16 GMT -8
Honestly, if I were to visit a theme park this year, it would be Disney. I want to see what they've done with Star Tours. I liked the old one, so the new one should be even better.
And I haven't tried the Red Cars in California Adventure (trying to keep this vaguely transit-related).
So expensive though....
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Post by jamesinclair on Jun 2, 2011 21:27:59 GMT -8
Honestly, if I were to visit a theme park this year, it would be Disney. I want to see what they've done with Star Tours. I liked the old one, so the new one should be even better. And I haven't tried the Red Cars in California Adventure (trying to keep this vaguely transit-related). So expensive though.... I did disney last year. $110 for both parks is just too high for a repeat visit. Six flags charges $35 if you buy your ticket online in advance.
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Post by joshuanickel on Jun 3, 2011 1:33:29 GMT -8
Honestly, if I were to visit a theme park this year, it would be Disney. I want to see what they've done with Star Tours. I liked the old one, so the new one should be even better. And I haven't tried the Red Cars in California Adventure (trying to keep this vaguely transit-related). So expensive though.... Red cars open next year
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Post by transitfan on Jun 3, 2011 5:58:36 GMT -8
Strange, I went to Magic Mountain 3 times in the late 70s (pre-Six Flags) and I don't remember the monorail at all. I guess I would've ridden it
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Post by James Fujita on Jun 3, 2011 14:37:06 GMT -8
Honestly, if I were to visit a theme park this year, it would be Disney. I want to see what they've done with Star Tours. I liked the old one, so the new one should be even better. And I haven't tried the Red Cars in California Adventure (trying to keep this vaguely transit-related). So expensive though.... Red cars open next year Ah, that would explain why I haven't ridden the Red Cars. I'm curious to see how that works out. Disney is in the business of creating illusion and is all about perception not reality, so I'm sure they will be fun even if they aren't the most technically accurate. If they do a decent job, transit muggles will love them, rail nerds will hate them. San Pedro went for accuracy, and as a result their Red Cars don't look right: allegedly, the familiar color we see in pictures are the result of weathering and not keeping up with painting. Well, that's just great, but I'd rather have trolleys which look right. p.s. JamesInclair: $35 is too expensive for rides I'm not interested in ;D
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Post by bobdavis on Aug 15, 2013 19:14:15 GMT -8
The California Adventure Red Cars look like a cross between a PE Hollywood car (the inspiration for the "Who Framed Roger Rabbit" streetcars) and a San Francisco Muni "Type J" single-truck center entrance car. Before operations started, the Disney supervisors sent the "cast members" who would be running the cars to Orange Empire for a training session on a real PE car.
Regarding the San Pedro cars--their paint jobs are replicas of the 1915-era look. The shade of red is darker than the post-1940 PE red.
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