|
Post by joquitter on Feb 3, 2022 19:15:50 GMT -8
Any word on if they finished yesterday? I think there would have been a big announcement if they finished yesterday, so I think they probably did not finish. Yeah true, that's what I was thinking!
|
|
|
Post by numble on Feb 18, 2022 5:41:02 GMT -8
Metro staff reported yesterday that they think both the Crenshaw Line and Regional Connector will be completed around May.
|
|
|
Post by numble on Feb 28, 2022 14:23:41 GMT -8
January 2022 status report for Crenshaw Line. 99.7%, +0.1%.
|
|
|
Post by numble on Mar 17, 2022 20:09:16 GMT -8
Metro staff reported today that 2 out of 3 segments (the non-underground sections) are complete on the Crenshaw Line.
|
|
|
Post by usmc1401 on Mar 30, 2022 13:44:06 GMT -8
Today per KNX radio in Los Angeles it was reported that the Crenshaw line is "substanial completed". With testing to begin for six months. First section to open is Westchester to Leimert Park. The other two sections will open in late 2023.
|
|
|
Post by numble on May 5, 2022 18:39:42 GMT -8
March 2022 status report for Crenshaw Line. 99.75%, +0.01%.
|
|
|
Post by andert on Jun 11, 2022 19:15:29 GMT -8
In the latest planning slideshow, the centinela decision has been punted again from summer to fall. Truly cannot fathom them voting to spend that much money to delay the crenshaw line further. But then again, I'm not on the metro board.
|
|
|
Post by bluelineshawn on Jun 12, 2022 8:43:10 GMT -8
In the latest planning slideshow, the centinela decision has been punted again from summer to fall. Truly cannot fathom them voting to spend that much money to delay the crenshaw line further. But then again, I'm not on the metro board. With costs rising and all projects becoming short of complete funding, maybe this will be the push the board needs to shelve this project for the foreseeable future.
|
|
|
Post by metrocenter on Jun 23, 2022 23:05:04 GMT -8
|
|
|
Post by macross287 on Jun 24, 2022 12:46:36 GMT -8
I take this to mean the line is finally substantial complete and is being transferred to metro for pre-revenue operations.
They did a similar tour for the regional connector a few months ago.
|
|
|
Post by macross287 on Jun 27, 2022 14:10:15 GMT -8
|
|
|
Post by usmc1401 on Jun 27, 2022 15:18:44 GMT -8
On Saturday night the Los Angeles TV stations had short clips on this event.
|
|
|
Post by tramfan on Jun 29, 2022 10:35:43 GMT -8
So how is a transfer from E to K going to work? Coming from Santa Monica you get out at Crenshaw, then you have to cross Crenshaw Blvd with traffic lights etc. to reach the K line? From downtown LA you get out of the E line, have to cross the tracks to reach the K line escalators. I can imagine schlepping suitcases to the station, getting the train getting out at the LAX station, schlepping your suitcases to the people mover and finally schlepping your suitcases from the people mover to the terminal. Not really a big improvement to an LAX connection for the Westside or even downtown LA. I guess designing a better transfer with easy access for transfer riders was not possible? Too expensive to make direct access from E line platforms to the K line?
|
|
|
Post by macross287 on Jun 29, 2022 12:02:07 GMT -8
|
|
|
Post by masonite on Jun 29, 2022 15:01:29 GMT -8
So how is a transfer from E to K going to work? Coming from Santa Monica you get out at Crenshaw, then you have to cross Crenshaw Blvd with traffic lights etc. to reach the K line? From downtown LA you get out of the E line, have to cross the tracks to reach the K line escalators. I can imagine schlepping suitcases to the station, getting the train getting out at the LAX station, schlepping your suitcases to the people mover and finally schlepping your suitcases from the people mover to the terminal. Not really a big improvement to an LAX connection for the Westside or even downtown LA. I guess designing a better transfer with easy access for transfer riders was not possible? Too expensive to make direct access from E line platforms to the K line? It won't make any sense to go from Santa Monica to LAX via Expo and Crenshaw. Would take forever. Won't make much more sense to go from DTLA to LAX via Expo/Crenshaw either. Easier to take the shuttle from LAUS. The transfer is clunky and awkward, but that is what you are going to get connecting an above ground rail line with a subway at a wide intersection.
|
|
|
Post by brady12 on Jun 29, 2022 16:46:38 GMT -8
So how is a transfer from E to K going to work? Coming from Santa Monica you get out at Crenshaw, then you have to cross Crenshaw Blvd with traffic lights etc. to reach the K line? From downtown LA you get out of the E line, have to cross the tracks to reach the K line escalators. I can imagine schlepping suitcases to the station, getting the train getting out at the LAX station, schlepping your suitcases to the people mover and finally schlepping your suitcases from the people mover to the terminal. Not really a big improvement to an LAX connection for the Westside or even downtown LA. I guess designing a better transfer with easy access for transfer riders was not possible? Too expensive to make direct access from E line platforms to the K line? It’s absolutely brutal. And unacceptable. They really can’t build a connection to the two lines? A set of stairs that goes up to the Expo Line? It’s such a bad look and makes the system feel so second rate and non-modern. Another missed chance.
|
|
|
Post by tramfan on Jun 30, 2022 8:42:02 GMT -8
When I want to go to LAX for travel I walk to the E line Sepulveda station and ride to SM downtown where I take the Blue Bus rapid 3 to LAX. It takes about 40 to 45 minutes depending on traffic. No 405 bumper to bumper, no LAX horseshoe backups, nobody to drive me there and it's a lot cheaper than a taxi or Uber. If they ever build the Sepulveda line from the Valley to LAX I will tide this way to LAX.
|
|
|
Post by macross287 on Jun 30, 2022 9:43:12 GMT -8
Even if the transfer were better, Santa Monica to LAX via the E and K lines is such a roundabout way to get to the airport.
The direct bus lines from Santa Monica would probably take the same amount of time with no transfer penalty.
|
|
|
Post by fissure on Jun 30, 2022 23:26:20 GMT -8
When I want to go to LAX for travel I walk to the E line Sepulveda station and ride to SM downtown where I take the Blue Bus rapid 3 to LAX. It takes about 40 to 45 minutes depending on traffic. No 405 bumper to bumper, no LAX horseshoe backups, nobody to drive me there and it's a lot cheaper than a taxi or Uber. If they ever build the Sepulveda line from the Valley to LAX I will tide this way to LAX. Why on Earth would you do that when the Culver City 6 runs directly between Sepulveda and LAX?
|
|
|
Post by brady12 on Jul 1, 2022 3:24:06 GMT -8
Even if the transfer were better, Santa Monica to LAX via the E and K lines is such a roundabout way to get to the airport. The direct bus lines from Santa Monica would probably take the same amount of time with no transfer penalty. If they had the foresight to interchange the lines - you could have seen LAX express trains leave twice an hour from downtown that went on the Expo and onto Crenshaw lines
|
|
|
Post by masonite on Jul 1, 2022 6:37:51 GMT -8
Even if the transfer were better, Santa Monica to LAX via the E and K lines is such a roundabout way to get to the airport. The direct bus lines from Santa Monica would probably take the same amount of time with no transfer penalty. If they had the foresight to interchange the lines - you could have seen LAX express trains leave twice an hour from downtown that went on the Expo and onto Crenshaw lines Haha. No way. You can’t have express trains without additional tracks or reducing headways dramatically. Also, you can’t run any more trains through the Washington Junction so interlining Crenshaw with Expo is not possible without reducing service on the Blue and Expo Lines.
|
|
|
Post by bzcat on Jul 1, 2022 8:57:25 GMT -8
If they had the foresight to interchange the lines - you could have seen LAX express trains leave twice an hour from downtown that went on the Expo and onto Crenshaw lines Haha. No way. You can’t have express trains without additional tracks or reducing headways dramatically. Also, you can’t run any more trains through the Washington Junction so interlining Crenshaw with Expo is not possible without reducing service on the Blue and Expo Lines. Also why the obsession with DTLA? Most travelers to/from LAX does not start or end at DTLA. That's one of the most frustrating thing I see posted in these forum over and over. Getting K line extended thru Mid City and Hollywood and connect to D line at Wilshire and B line to SFV is going to be much more useful for vast majority of people going to/from LAX. You can already take Metro from DTLA to LAX... via A and C line. It's not that popular because not many people in the LA metro area are going to DTLA when they land at LAX.
|
|
|
Post by numble on Jul 1, 2022 10:04:31 GMT -8
Even if the transfer were better, Santa Monica to LAX via the E and K lines is such a roundabout way to get to the airport. The direct bus lines from Santa Monica would probably take the same amount of time with no transfer penalty. If they had the foresight to interchange the lines - you could have seen LAX express trains leave twice an hour from downtown that went on the Expo and onto Crenshaw lines That would add at least a billion to the cost, and the current LAX Flyaway from Union Station will still be faster.
|
|
|
Post by bluelineshawn on Jul 1, 2022 16:34:46 GMT -8
If they had the foresight to interchange the lines - you could have seen LAX express trains leave twice an hour from downtown that went on the Expo and onto Crenshaw lines That would add at least a billion to the cost, and the current LAX Flyaway from Union Station will still be faster. $1 billion seems high given that the entirety of the regional connector was only $1.7 billion and this would be essentially what was done at Little Tokyo Station. That aside, on this forum or maybe the old one I once advocated for Expo and Crenshaw to be interlined with some amount of trains going DTLA-South Bay and some amount going Santa Monica-South Bay with the majority going DTLA-Santa Monica. I think that can match demand if balanced right but I no longer think that is the best option as it will be operationally difficult (especially with street running) and maybe less convenient for many riders due to the decreased frequency being more onerous than the transfer. So yeah, spending more and maybe getting less. Regarding the LAX Flyaway I think that it's important to note that the largest number of riders using mass transit to LAX are and will continue to be employees. That said, if you don't have luggage I think that the C line to the silver line will be faster to downtown for most people. It's currently 10-15 minutes faster than the A line although I expect the K to E line to be competitive. The problem with the flyaway is that it overshoots downtown for most people and they have to backtrack from LAUS. And at rush hour the 105 fwy is jammed even in the carpool lane.
|
|
|
Post by andert on Jul 2, 2022 10:05:21 GMT -8
I feel like the only way we'll ever get a direct downtown/LAX train, now that the harbor sub is being used, is if an underground Slauson LRT is built one day (at least building it under the harbor sub park/trails would be moderately cheaper than building it under the street, right?), they can use a larger single bore tunnel to simultaneously build express tracks for a metrolink train. That's far far future stuff though, and I think the only way that the cost would be justified is if they feel a direct express connection between CAHSR and LAX is necessary. Could even be a CAHSR extension instead of a Metrolink train, in fact.
|
|
|
Post by joquitter on Jul 2, 2022 14:27:41 GMT -8
Haha. No way. You can’t have express trains without additional tracks or reducing headways dramatically. Also, you can’t run any more trains through the Washington Junction so interlining Crenshaw with Expo is not possible without reducing service on the Blue and Expo Lines. Also why the obsession with DTLA? Most travelers to/from LAX does not start or end at DTLA. That's one of the most frustrating thing I see posted in these forum over and over. Getting K line extended thru Mid City and Hollywood and connect to D line at Wilshire and B line to SFV is going to be much more useful for vast majority of people going to/from LAX. You can already take Metro from DTLA to LAX... via A and C line. It's not that popular because not many people in the LA metro area are going to DTLA when they land at LAX. ^^THIS.
|
|
|
Post by macross287 on Jul 7, 2022 10:21:39 GMT -8
Seems like this line has completed construction and been transferred for final testing to metro according to CBS News youtu.be/xfGrfN4o6BE
|
|
|
Post by samon8ive on Jul 8, 2022 11:53:13 GMT -8
I live in Westchester and have been dying for the K Line to finish. Saw a test train on the track near the Westchester station on my morning run. First time I've seen that. Let's hope they are getting close to opening.
|
|
|
Post by macross287 on Jul 11, 2022 8:37:56 GMT -8
Metro released their K line introduction website. kline.metro.net/They seem to be committed to opening this line before the end of the year.
|
|
|
Post by macross287 on Jul 29, 2022 8:19:13 GMT -8
Numble tweeted that the K line was substantially completed in June and is targeting a September 30th opening
Metro also tweeted this
So it seems like they are starting pre revenue service next month.
|
|