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Post by culvercitylocke on Apr 14, 2021 14:24:32 GMT -8
This is a complete unmitigated disaster of a project. The cruelty is the point, a disaster is what Metro wants because it's what "those people" deserve.
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Post by numble on Apr 19, 2021 10:07:53 GMT -8
Here are some interesting comments made by Julie Owen of Metro's Program Management department (the department that handles projects in the bidding/construction phases). Just putting it in this topic since Crenshaw has had the most contractor issues. There is a full YouTube video where she discusses the evolution of their department.
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Post by culvercitylocke on Apr 19, 2021 11:15:28 GMT -8
Here are some interesting comments made by Julie Owen of Metro's Program Management department (the department that handles projects in the bidding/construction phases). Just putting it in this topic since Crenshaw has had the most contractor issues. There is a full YouTube video where she discusses the evolution of their department. Thank you numble! this is a good reminder of the awesome people generally involved in the day to day at metro. and a lot of my bitching and moaning is simply frustration at continual recurrence and new reveals and manifestations of the systemic, structural racism and classism baked into Los Angeles. Sorry for my negativity, all.
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Post by numble on May 7, 2021 11:08:00 GMT -8
An independent monitoring/oversight report forecasts that service won’t start until November 2022, that is after the forecast start of the Regional Connector (though Regional Connector is also not moving on schedule):
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Post by bzcat on May 11, 2021 22:26:02 GMT -8
The LAX station contract was awarded to Tutor for... wait for it... $900 million. That is before the inevitable cost increases. So an elevated lightrail station on land that is largely already owned by Metro (its located on the edge of the Crenshaw train yard) with no new tracks is going to cost a freaking billion dollars?!? Yes, yes, I know it is also a bus station and will have fancy amenities for LAX but goddamnit, I rather we spend $1 billion towards putting Expo line underground in Downtown LA and just do the LAX station with barebones station that has walkway to transfer LAX APM. Speaking of Expo line... remember we were aghast when Expo phase 1 budget ballooned (BALOONED!) to $980 million 15 years ago? That seems so quaint now compare to this $1 billion train station. labusinessjournal.com/news/2021/may/10/metro-approves-900-million-airport-connector/
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Post by numble on May 11, 2021 23:50:49 GMT -8
The LAX station contract was awarded to Tutor for... wait for it... $900 million. That is before the inevitable cost increases. So an elevated lightrail station on land that is largely already owned by Metro (its located on the edge of the Crenshaw train yard) with no new tracks is going to cost a freaking billion dollars?!? Yes, yes, I know it is also a bus station and will have fancy amenities for LAX but goddamnit, I rather we spend $1 billion towards putting Expo line underground in Downtown LA and just do the LAX station with barebones station that has walkway to transfer LAX APM. Speaking of Expo line... remember we were aghast when Expo phase 1 budget ballooned (BALOONED!) to $980 million 15 years ago? That seems so quaint now compare to this $1 billion train station. labusinessjournal.com/news/2021/may/10/metro-approves-900-million-airport-connector/The budget for the whole project is here. The Tutor Perini portion is $478 million (though the whole project has $96 million in unallocated contingency). Real estate costs ate up over $80 million as they needed to eminent domain the land from Hertz, which has/had a rental car facility there, including almost $2 million for legal fees (Hertz is bankrupt so I guess it makes it harder to eminent domain, and the pandemic caused courts to move slowly on the case). People have noticed that there's at least $50 million of costs here that look like they belong to other projects, and perhaps were pushed here so other projects have lower cost overruns. There is $37 million for Walsh/Shea, the Crenshaw Line contractor, and $12 million for rail cars, which you don't expect to see in a budget for a station. Edit: Sorry forgot to add the link: metro.legistar.com/View.ashx?M=F&ID=9305186&GUID=AAB373E1-24CD-47D1-B63E-C8C39DBC94BF
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Post by metrocenter on May 12, 2021 20:49:21 GMT -8
What??? 900 million for one station? Holy Moses...it must be nice to be a contractor with public funds virtually guaranteed to them.
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Post by culvercitylocke on May 13, 2021 12:17:36 GMT -8
900 million for a station that isn't even underground!
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Post by numble on May 21, 2021 12:12:06 GMT -8
May 2021 Construction Committee meeting comments on Crenshaw Line:
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Post by numble on Jun 25, 2021 9:09:58 GMT -8
May 2021 status report says they are 99% complete.
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Post by metrocenter on Jul 1, 2021 9:53:07 GMT -8
forecast completion (now 7/23/21...) Well they've got three weeks to finish. Anybody want to take that bet?
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Post by numble on Jul 12, 2021 11:48:15 GMT -8
forecast completion (now 7/23/21...) Well they've got three weeks to finish. Anybody want to take that bet? I received the independent third party monitoring report for May 2021, and their analysis based on pace of work and remaining work to do, was that service wouldn’t start until November 1, 2022. lametro.nextrequest.com/requests/21-784
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Post by numble on Jul 23, 2021 13:53:07 GMT -8
June 2021 status report for Crenshaw Line. 99.1%, +0.1%. Contractor pushed the estimated completion date to August 5, 2021.
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Post by numble on Aug 30, 2021 9:05:25 GMT -8
Here's the July 2021 Crenshaw Line status report summary. 99.2%, +0.1% since the June report. Contractor's estimated completion was pushed back to September 9, from previous estimate of August 5. I think every month we'll just see the estimated completion date pushed back until the project is actually finally done...
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Post by andert on Aug 30, 2021 9:23:50 GMT -8
Very interested to see how quickly metro sues the contractor once the project is finally delivered.
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Post by bluelineshawn on Aug 31, 2021 18:48:22 GMT -8
Very interested to see how quickly metro sues the contractor once the project is finally delivered. I'll be happy if they just never hire them again. This will definitely hurt them when bidding on future projects and not just on metro. All public projects weight previous projects when evaluating the technical capabilities of bidders. This is Walsh Shea right? They keep a low profile and their name never comes up anymore. Probably a good idea since so far only politicians, local residents, and transit nerds are even aware of how horrible this is going. On the good side, they're still ahead of the schedule delays incurred by Crossrail, so it could be worse and may yet still be.
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Post by numble on Sept 1, 2021 10:45:11 GMT -8
Very interested to see how quickly metro sues the contractor once the project is finally delivered. I'll be happy if they just never hire them again. This will definitely hurt them when bidding on future projects and not just on metro. All public projects weight previous projects when evaluating the technical capabilities of bidders. This is Walsh Shea right? They keep a low profile and their name never comes up anymore. Probably a good idea since so far only politicians, local residents, and transit nerds are even aware of how horrible this is going. On the good side, they're still ahead of the schedule delays incurred by Crossrail, so it could be worse and may yet still be. Yes, it is Walsh Shea (they are actually 2 contractors working together, Walsh and Shea). A person from Metro's construction supervision department seems to have said recently that they never want to work with them again (she didn't name which project or which contractor she was talking about, but it clearly must be the Crenshaw Line since the project is so late without justification--Regional Connector and Purple Line 1 will also be late, but mostly due to encountering underground issues).
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Post by numble on Sept 24, 2021 11:11:00 GMT -8
August 2021 status report. 99.24% +0.04%. I first noticed in this report that there were issues with the OCR that needed to be repaired, which probably has caused further delays.
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Post by bluelineshawn on Sept 24, 2021 15:42:10 GMT -8
We know that there's trouble when they start showing completions to 2 decimals. 99.2% to 99.24%. 😂
Visually, the line looks really close to being complete. It certainly should given the stated completion, but it's still good to see.
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Post by numble on Oct 26, 2021 21:46:18 GMT -8
September 2021 status report. 99.3%, +0.06%. Every month, the contractor says they'll be done next month.
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Post by numble on Dec 24, 2021 12:09:44 GMT -8
November 2021 status report for Crenshaw Line. 99.5%, +0.1%.
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Post by bzcat on Dec 27, 2021 10:35:36 GMT -8
Lol, I think the plan is to just add 30 days delay to each monthly report so Metro will never need to open the line.
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Post by numble on Jan 7, 2022 17:59:47 GMT -8
In October 2021 the FTA’s independent review of the Crenshaw Line estimated the project will be completed on February 1, 2021 with service starting on November 1, 2022.
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Post by masonite on Jan 7, 2022 19:41:27 GMT -8
In October 2021 the FTA’s independent review of the Crenshaw Line estimated the project will be completed on February 1, 2021 with service starting on November 1, 2022. Even Feb. 1 seems unlikely with the uptick in COVID and the fact that it is only a few weeks away.
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Post by usmc1401 on Jan 8, 2022 8:43:20 GMT -8
One of my brothers works at LAX. He said test trains are now being operated on the Crenshaw line this week.
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Post by numble on Feb 1, 2022 0:46:31 GMT -8
December 2021 status report for Crenshaw Line. 99.6%, +0.1%. They are running out of milestones to miss.
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Post by joquitter on Feb 2, 2022 10:30:03 GMT -8
In October 2021 the FTA’s independent review of the Crenshaw Line estimated the project will be completed on February 1, 2021 with service starting on November 1, 2022. Any word on if they finished yesterday?
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Post by numble on Feb 2, 2022 20:10:21 GMT -8
In October 2021 the FTA’s independent review of the Crenshaw Line estimated the project will be completed on February 1, 2021 with service starting on November 1, 2022. Any word on if they finished yesterday? I think there would have been a big announcement if they finished yesterday, so I think they probably did not finish.
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Post by bluelineshawn on Feb 2, 2022 20:45:06 GMT -8
Any word on if they finished yesterday? I think there would have been a big announcement if they finished yesterday, so I think they probably did not finish. At the construction meeting, I'm pretty sure that they said that they expect the contractor to finish in February so we should be hearing soon.
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Post by numble on Feb 2, 2022 21:05:57 GMT -8
I think there would have been a big announcement if they finished yesterday, so I think they probably did not finish. At the construction meeting, I'm pretty sure that they said that they expect the contractor to finish in February so we should be hearing soon. I will believe it when I see it.
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