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Post by Alexis Kasperavičius on Jan 25, 2013 10:41:35 GMT -8
Unfortunately, this is not a joke: Metro board members decided at their meeting today to rename three subway stations.
The Civic Center station in Downtown will henceforth be known as Civic Center/Grand Park/Tom Bradley Station in order to help direct people to the new Grand Park, as well as to honor the former LA mayor, reports The Source.
The Red Line Universal City station is now the Universal City/Studio City Station, as it's actually in Studio City.
Finally, the Purple Line's Wilshire/Western Station is now the Wilshire/Western/Alfred Hoyun Song Station, to honor the former mayor of Monterey Park and the first Asian-American legislator elected to the State Assembly.
The changes for the Civic Center and Valley stations involve new signage that will cost about $32,200--that should be up by the end of June, and the audio announcements will also change for these stops. The Koreatown station will get a $5,000 plaque to honor Hoyun Song, but no other new markers.
From: thesource.metro.net/2013/01/24/metro-board-approves-renaming-of-three-metro-rail-stations/
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Post by bzcat on Jan 25, 2013 11:18:20 GMT -8
It's not any worst than Rosa Park Station. Or all those freeway offramp named after CHP officers.
Civic Center/Grand Park is ok... although it was just fine when it was Civic Center.
Studio City is contentious because it is geographically correct name but probably not all that useful to most people.
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Post by K 22 on Jan 25, 2013 14:37:36 GMT -8
Not a fan. Those names are a bit too DC-ish in its overly long names.
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Post by TransportationZ on Jan 25, 2013 15:51:38 GMT -8
They killed Rosa Parks and Kenneth Hahn but add Bradley and Hoyun Song? Bradley should have been been given station a long time ago.
Studio City must have complained to Metro. No one really goes to the universal station for Studio City, so I can't think of any practical reason why it would added. For Wilshire/Western and Civic Center, plaques and other tributes would have been better than putting them inside the station name that noone will use anyway.
Growing up on Metro Rail, Rosa Parks was the only station where people actually used the name of person the station was named after. Rarely did anyone use Imperial/Wilmington.
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Post by LAofAnaheim on Jan 26, 2013 11:12:48 GMT -8
Tom Bradley already has an airport terminal named after him. Weren't his contributions to LA more than mass transit...like the expansion of LAX?
Anyways, the only Mayor outside of Bradley who deserves a rail station named after him is Antonio Villairaigosa. We wouldn't even be talking about the Purple Line, Crenshaw Line, SFV Line, Foothill Extension without his promotion and backing of Measure R. He also got Waxman to start a study in 2005 as his first order of Mayor to get the drilling ban overturned in the Westside and now we have federal funding capabilty for a subway line. That is a lasting legacy. Future Wilshire/La Brea/Villairaigosa station should happen, without doubt (first new subway station since the ban was overturned in 2007/2008).
Mayor Hahn gave into the BRU and wasn't it during his tenure that there was a ban to subway construction with Prop A funds? Mayor Hahn did an excellent job with the passage of Adaptive Resuse in 1999, which was the biggest reason there is a residential explosion in downtown. But he shouldn't have a station named after him.
As for Rosa Parks............every city just has a soft spot for her. Personally, she already has a freeway named after her, she didn't get her fame from transit expansion and is not personally tied to Los Angeles.
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Post by TransportationZ on Jan 26, 2013 11:50:05 GMT -8
Tom Bradley already has an airport terminal named after him. Weren't his contributions to LA more than mass transit...like the expansion of LAX? Anyways, the only Mayor outside of Bradley who deserves a rail station named after him is Antonio Villairaigosa. We wouldn't even be talking about the Purple Line, Crenshaw Line, SFV Line, Foothill Extension without his promotion and backing of Measure R. He also got Waxman to start a study in 2005 as his first order of Mayor to get the drilling ban overturned in the Westside and now we have federal funding capabilty for a subway line. That is a lasting legacy. Future Wilshire/La Brea/Villairaigosa station should happen, without doubt (first new subway station since the ban was overturned in 2007/2008). Mayor Hahn gave into the BRU and wasn't it during his tenure that there was a ban to subway construction with Prop A funds? Mayor Hahn did an excellent job with the passage of Adaptive Resuse in 1999, which was the biggest reason there is a residential explosion in downtown. But he shouldn't have a station named after him. As for Rosa Parks............every city just has a soft spot for her. Personally, she already has a freeway named after her, she didn't get her fame from transit expansion and is not personally tied to Los Angeles. I think you miss took my post. I thought the reason why they killed Rosa Parks and Kenneth Hahn was because they are trying to simplify the station names, which why I was surprised by them adding more names. Even still, I wish they would have kept Rosa Parks. Regardless of her contribution, it was the name for the now Willowbrook station that people actually used. I definitely agree about Mr Villairaigosa. Thankfully I was able to personally thank him for his significant contribution to LA transit when he was visiting Union Station one day.
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Post by jamesinclair on Jan 26, 2013 22:48:07 GMT -8
Not a fan. Those names are a bit too DC-ish in its overly long names. DC is actually shortening many names, because such long names are quite frankly idiotic.
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Post by bluelineshawn on Jan 27, 2013 18:29:26 GMT -8
I think you miss took my post. I thought the reason why they killed Rosa Parks and Kenneth Hahn was because they are trying to simplify the station names, which why I was surprised by them adding more names. Even still, I wish they would have kept Rosa Parks. Regardless of her contribution, it was the name for the now Willowbrook station that people actually used. I definitely agree about Mr Villairaigosa. Thankfully I was able to personally thank him for his significant contribution to LA transit when he was visiting Union Station one day. I agree about Rosa Parks. And in fact I seem to recall that when Metro held meetings to improve the station that the community showed strong support for the Rosa Parks name. She even came out when they named it didn't she? I mean honestly what type of agency removes a dedicated name so soon after the fact. It;s disrespectful. Well anyway I'm not sure any suggestions from the community from those meetings several years ago are scheduled to be acted upon even the simplest thing like the station name. Personally I liked both "Rosa Parks" and "Kenneth Hahn". I never took to "Julian Dixon".
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Post by K 22 on Feb 1, 2013 9:32:22 GMT -8
Not a fan. Those names are a bit too DC-ish in its overly long names. DC is actually shortening many names, because such long names are quite frankly idiotic. When I was there during Thanksgiving - I did notice "New York Avenue / Florida Avenue / Gallaudet University" station is now simply "NoMa / Gallaudet University". Now they need to shorten " U Street / African American Civil War Memorial / Cardozo".
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Post by metrocenter on Feb 1, 2013 9:49:04 GMT -8
We all appreciate the contributions of Rosa Parks and Kenneth Hahn, but I'm glad the names of these stations have been simplified to "Willowbrook" and "103 Street/Watts Towers". I prefer these names because they tell you where you are.
If they want to have verbose ceremonial station names, then I'm all for it. I'd even be in favor of including a ceremonial sign, plaque or statue in the station, to honor the person. But keep the primary name - for maps, flyers, website, etc. - short and useful. And call out the primary name at stops. Nobody wants to hear a station name called out with seven or more words in it.
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Post by jamesinclair on Feb 4, 2013 22:08:09 GMT -8
DC is actually shortening many names, because such long names are quite frankly idiotic. When I was there during Thanksgiving - I did notice "New York Avenue / Florida Avenue / Gallaudet University" station is now simply "NoMa / Gallaudet University". Now they need to shorten " U Street / African American Civil War Memorial / Cardozo". Heres an article about DC making some stations have shorter names greatergreaterwashington.org/post/12652/and-the-new-station-names-are/
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Post by Elson on Feb 14, 2013 11:00:05 GMT -8
Argh! NO MORE NAMING STATIONS AFTER PEOPLE!
If you want to memorialize someone, put a statue inside or outside the station or something. But having their name on the station sign means nothing.
Rosa Parks was a heroic American. But naming a station after her won't help people get around. That said, if they named an entire locality after her ("Rosa Parks Transit Center" or "Rosa Parks District") then that would make perfect sense.
Metro needs to stop being so slash-happy in their station nomenclature.
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Post by metrocenter on Feb 14, 2013 15:20:56 GMT -8
^ It's not "Metro" (as in staff). It's members of the Metro Board, usually County Supes, looking to score easy points with their communities.
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Post by JerardWright on Feb 16, 2013 10:58:05 GMT -8
Mayor Hahn gave into the BRU and wasn't it during his tenure that there was a ban to subway construction with Prop A funds? Mayor Hahn did an excellent job with the passage of Adaptive Resuse in 1999, which was the biggest reason there is a residential explosion in downtown. But he shouldn't have a station named after him. The Mayor that gave into the BRU was Mayor Riordan, Hahn was the one who continued and expanded the Adaptive Reuse which was only a developer give-away when it started but made a better use of other areas.
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Post by JerardWright on Feb 16, 2013 11:04:16 GMT -8
I think you miss took my post. I thought the reason why they killed Rosa Parks and Kenneth Hahn was because they are trying to simplify the station names, which why I was surprised by them adding more names. Even still, I wish they would have kept Rosa Parks. Regardless of her contribution, it was the name for the now Willowbrook station that people actually used. This is all political, notice where most of the name changes are taking place, guess which Supervisors District? Vermont/I-105 to Vermont/Athens Hawthrone to Hawthorne/Lennox Imperial/Wilmington/Rosa Parks to Willowbrook 103rd/Kenneth Hahn to 103rd/Watts Towers Wilshire/Western to Wilshire-Western/Alfred Song
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