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Post by exporider on Mar 8, 2017 10:14:22 GMT -8
What effect are these new cars having on operations of the Gold Line? Are they extending the length of peak period trains, where they need the extra capacity? The new Kinkisharyo cars are currently extending the Gold Line fleet to meet the headways for the longer route to Azusa. The long plan is to replace ALL Bredas with Kinkisharyo trains in time for the opening of the Regional Connector because the Bredas are incompatible (off spec) with the balance of the system outside of the Gold Line. The Breda P2550 were constructed overweight by the Italian firm and cannot be supported by older Blue Line bridges when the two lines are joined as one route. Streetsblog Oct 2009
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Post by exporider on Mar 8, 2017 10:25:55 GMT -8
t4gm: I'm trying to understand the first part of your response: "The new Kinkisharyo cars are currently extending the Gold Line fleet to meet the headways for the longer route to Azusa". Hasn't that operational change been in place for several months now? Are you implying that Metro hasn't been able to meet the headways for the published schedules? My real question is: Is Metro operating any peak period three-car trains on the Gold Line? And if so, has the number of three-car trains on the Gold Line been increasing with the new rail car deliveries?
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Post by thanks4goingmetro on Mar 8, 2017 11:13:40 GMT -8
Yes, the operational change has been in effect since the Foothill extension opened. No, I am not implying the headways are not being met. The Kinkisharyos were introduced initially to extend the Breda fleet, I'm speculating that soon the phase out of Bredas will have to begin to operate on the Blue Line by 2019. Some three car trains do operate on the Gold Line and they are exclusively Kinkisharyo cars as far as I've seen as a biweekly peak hour rider. It's hard to say if more 3-car trains are operating on Gold Line, certainly doesn't seem necessary now that 7-minute service goes the entirety of the line now, the ridership is healthy but not robust enough for 3-car and 7-minute service together.
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Post by exporider on Mar 8, 2017 12:51:28 GMT -8
t4gm: Thanks for the observations. I was curious because of some photos I've seen in other social media showing significant crowding on the Gold Line. My guess is that those crowing problems are isolated and the result of bunching problems on the Gold Line. Ridership counts that I've seen support your assertion that the ridership is not robust enough to warrant 3-car and 7-minute service together. I also contend that alternating two- and three-car trains in operation actually causes more bunching, and therefore more crowded conditions (that's because the three-car trains are subject to less dwell time than the two-car trains), but I don't have enough empirical evidence to prove this hypothesis. Yet.
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Post by bobdavis on Apr 6, 2017 20:37:45 GMT -8
Latest Kinki-Sharyo seen in the Div. 24 (Monrovia) yard: we're up to 1081!
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