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Post by Alexis Kasperavičius on May 26, 2014 0:36:11 GMT -8
Thread for technical matters relating to operation of Red and Purple lines
The operations crew at work:
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Post by thanks4goingmetro on May 19, 2015 11:16:08 GMT -8
Has anyone else noticed that the Red/Purple Line have settled into a maintenance schedule of Sunday-Thursday 8:30PM-Close basically for just about every week since the beginning of the year? I live in Mid-Wilshire and I am a discretionary rider, choosing to use the subway by choice to go downtown over driving or taking a taxi, for me, the incentive of fast, regular service every ten minutes on a single seat as promised with " More Trains More Often" was enough to leave the car at home, however, this year, not so. The Red/Purple Line just does not work for this short distance, in fact, its a much better experience to take the 20/720 bus in comparison, they operate more frequently and the roads don't shut down. Anyway, today is around the 140th day of the year, with the "maintenance" scheduling as it is there has been only about 40 days of regular service on the LA Metro's most used lines. The MTA advisory website says seismic work and wi-fi installation, ok, sure, then what are they doing when they shut down the entire line from midnight until 4am every night? I don't think other discretionary riders are appreciative and the captive riders of no other resort have no choice, personally when out after 8:30 at night in downtown I automatically beeline for the bus or opt for using Lyft app; my $100/mo unlimited MTA pass is worth less now.
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Post by Philip on May 19, 2015 13:28:02 GMT -8
The ongoing maintenance, however necessary, is frustrating.
Metro needs to either revert back to its former "every 20 minutes after 8:30" rule, or get their act together and start running trains.
At this point, and I never thought I would say this, I'd almost prefer service every 10 minutes during the week than late night service on the weekends.
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Post by cygnip2p on Aug 17, 2016 9:37:27 GMT -8
Metro was awarded $69 million in state funds today to construct a turn back facility in the Red/Purple yard. This will allow trains to 'run-through' Union station, with cleaning and crew change being done in the yard. This should allow Metro to decrease headways to 4 minutes per line (2 minute total) through Union Station by 2023. This is also a step towards construction of the Arts District stations that have been much discussed. Although this money doesn't build those stations, the turn-back platforms are going to be built in such a way that they can be expanded into a station in the future. www.calsta.ca.gov/~/media/CalSTA/docs/pdfs/2016/Detailed%20Project%20Award%20Summary%20-%20Final.pdf?la=en
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Post by bzcat on Aug 17, 2016 10:28:10 GMT -8
$69 million award is only about 40% of the total budget... wonder where Metro will get the funding for the rest. This project is not listed in the upcoming ballot measure.
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Post by cygnip2p on Aug 17, 2016 10:39:51 GMT -8
I believe the rest of the money is already in Metro R as part of the Purple Line extension.
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Post by jdrcrasher on Aug 17, 2016 11:48:55 GMT -8
Probably a tough question to answer, but is this "turn back facility" being designed in such a way so that the Purple/Red Line can run-through not only South to the Arts District, but in the future could also perhaps be extended East (San Gabriel Valley) by branching off at the existing junction (visible from the US platforms)?
Hopefully Metro is thinking ahead...
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Post by Quixote on Aug 17, 2016 12:25:53 GMT -8
$69 million award is only about 40% of the total budget... wonder where Metro will get the funding for the rest. This project is not listed in the upcoming ballot measure. Perhaps this could fall under the "Transit Operations" category? If not, then Prop A/C.
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Post by joshuanickel on Aug 17, 2016 17:31:18 GMT -8
Probably a tough question to answer, but is this "turn back facility" being designed in such a way so that the Purple/Red Line can run-through not only South to the Arts District, but in the future could also perhaps be extended East (San Gabriel Valley) by branching off at the existing junction (visible from the US platforms)? Hopefully Metro is thinking ahead... This turnback facility would be located in the maintenance yard for the red/purple line using the existing tunnel. There would be crossover tracks and a platform installed to accommodate the changing of train operators and track switching. This will allow trains to roll right into union station without slowing down for switching of tracks, which allows more trains per hour in to the station for increased service. Since the switching of tracks would be done off line at the turnback facility.
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Post by joshuanickel on Aug 17, 2016 17:35:40 GMT -8
$69 million award is only about 40% of the total budget... wonder where Metro will get the funding for the rest. This project is not listed in the upcoming ballot measure. I believe the rest of the money is already in Metro R as part of the Purple Line extension. I believe that the other money would come from the Purple Line money from measure R. The purple line budget included modifications to division 20 as part of the budget and this project is necessary due to the increased frequencies that comes with the extension.
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Post by bzcat on Sept 17, 2019 10:35:36 GMT -8
I waited 12 minutes yesterday for a purple line train at 7th St Metro Center around 7 PM which is at the tail end of rush hour but still rush hour. Lots of people were just getting off work so we are not talking about night owl hours.
It's an embarrassment that our subway runs at such ridiculous long headway on a weekday rush hour.
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Post by masonite on Sept 17, 2019 15:10:05 GMT -8
I waited 12 minutes yesterday for a purple line train at 7th St Metro Center around 7 PM which is at the tail end of rush hour but still rush hour. Lots of people were just getting off work so we are not talking about night owl hours. It's an embarrassment that our subway runs at such ridiculous long headway on a weekday rush hour. Yes, and some people are going to events at that time as well. I mean traffic is still awful at 7:00 p.m. so why does Metro start shutting it down then. They just announced they are going back to 6 minute headways on Expo for an hour in the morning rush and an hour in the evening. For the morning rush, they are defining that as basically 6:00 a.m. to 7:00 a.m. I know people commute during these hours but to call that the peak rush just seems too early for me.
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Post by fissure on Sept 18, 2019 9:02:53 GMT -8
Peak headways would pass Culver City (roughly the point of max loading, in my experience) from 07:07-08:02 and 17:21-18:09. Maybe a bit early and a bit late, but not as bad as you make it sound.
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