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Post by bluelineshawn on Jun 30, 2019 7:02:36 GMT -8
May 2019 project status report: Yet if you watch the metro construction board meeting you will hear Richard Clarke and the Project Manager state that it's on schedule and making great progress. At every single meeting they say the same thing and not once has this been questioned by the board even as the schedule starts to slip and is changed. Same for every project. Our metro boards are very close to useless as they don't ever get into the details. It's very different than watching NYCT/MTA meetings where everything is questioned. |
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Post by numble on Jun 30, 2019 23:33:36 GMT -8
May 2019 project status report: Yet if you watch the metro construction board meeting you will hear Richard Clarke and the Project Manager state that it's on schedule and making great progress. At every single meeting they say the same thing and not once has this been questioned by the board even as the schedule starts to slip and is changed. Same for every project. Our metro boards are very close to useless as they don't ever get into the details. It's very different than watching NYCT/MTA meetings where everything is questioned. I agree that they seem very deferential to staff so they only bring up questions if they have constituents approach them or there are a lot of people during public comment complaining about the same thing (for example, they made changes to the North Hollywood to Pasadena BRT because the Pasadena mayor complained to Directors Barger and Fasana and they have delayed the North San Fernando Valley BRT for 3 months after about a dozen speakers showed up to complain). They also do not seem to put much of a fuss for the Crenshaw Line’s delay. |
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Post by metrocenter on Jul 1, 2019 10:44:04 GMT -8
Yet if you watch the metro construction board meeting you will hear Richard Clarke and the Project Manager state that it's on schedule and making great progress. At every single meeting they say the same thing and not once has this been questioned by the board even as the schedule starts to slip and is changed. Same for every project. Our metro boards are very close to useless as they don't ever get into the details. It's very different than watching NYCT/MTA meetings where everything is questioned. That's how they do it: they repeat over and over that everything is fine. Then, after many months of the problem, after the delay has become painfully obvious to everyone, they will announce a change in the scheduled completion date. I wish I could make it to these meetings (which are scheduled in the middle of the workday), so I could ask them to explain to the public what the hell is going on. |
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Post by bluelineshawn on Jul 1, 2019 13:09:49 GMT -8
Yet if you watch the metro construction board meeting you will hear Richard Clarke and the Project Manager state that it's on schedule and making great progress. At every single meeting they say the same thing and not once has this been questioned by the board even as the schedule starts to slip and is changed. Same for every project. Our metro boards are very close to useless as they don't ever get into the details. It's very different than watching NYCT/MTA meetings where everything is questioned. That's how they do it: they repeat over and over that everything is fine. Then, after many months of the problem, after the delay has become painfully obvious to everyone, they will announce a change in the scheduled completion date. I wish I could make it to these meetings (which are scheduled in the middle of the workday), so I could ask them to explain to the public what the hell is going on. I think that I may schedule a vacation day or a half day to make my displeasure known. The boards really do a disservice to the public and I would politely encourage them to be better stewards. |
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Post by bzcat on Jul 2, 2019 14:11:25 GMT -8
Good thing we are not hosting the 2024 Olympics... we still be building this
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Post by metrocenter on Jul 5, 2019 11:52:47 GMT -8
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Post by metrocenter on Jul 15, 2019 9:18:43 GMT -8
Major Project Status Report for July is out. Regional Connector is still listed as 57% complete (overall progress), same as June and May. The project is either completely stopped for the last two months (unlikely), or Metro has simply decided to stop providing accurate information to the public.
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Post by numble on Jul 15, 2019 15:38:10 GMT -8
Major Project Status Report for July is out. Regional Connector is still listed as 57% complete (overall progress), same as June and May. The project is either completely stopped for the last two months (unlikely), or Metro has simply decided to stop providing accurate information to the public. They are very lazy with this report for the Construction Committee. I believe it is done one month in advance or something. They show the status of Elsie/TBM 2 as of June 13, but the report was published on July 12. |
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Post by bluelineshawn on Jul 19, 2019 14:43:01 GMT -8
Major Project Status Report for July is out. Regional Connector is still listed as 57% complete (overall progress), same as June and May. The project is either completely stopped for the last two months (unlikely), or Metro has simply decided to stop providing accurate information to the public. They are very lazy with this report for the Construction Committee. I believe it is done one month in advance or something. They show the status of Elsie/TBM 2 as of June 13, but the report was published on July 12. I've watched plenty of committee meetings lately and they all seem quite useless, but the construction committee may be the most useless of all. They are terrible stewards of metro projects. Only the operations, safety and customer experience committee is worse because their positions regarding safety may actually be harmful to customers. |
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Post by numble on Jul 22, 2019 20:00:19 GMT -8
June 2019 project status report is out, with a forecast completion another 10 days later than the May forecast.
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Post by metrocenter on Aug 9, 2019 8:54:21 GMT -8
We have a breakthrough! The contractor has broken through the wall between 7th/Metro station and the Flower Street tunnel. (Here is the Facebook video.) |
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Post by metrocenter on Aug 9, 2019 14:59:11 GMT -8
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Post by metrocenter on Sept 16, 2019 10:57:50 GMT -8
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Post by bzcat on Sept 16, 2019 13:40:29 GMT -8
March 2022 opening is not happening at this rate
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Post by bluelineshawn on Sept 16, 2019 14:00:08 GMT -8
March 2022 opening is not happening at this rate If you go by progress reports, Purple line phase 1 will open before the connector. Even looking at the photos that appears likely based on the pace of improvements. |
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Post by metrocenter on Sept 16, 2019 20:46:43 GMT -8
December 2018 it was 54.8% complete.
September 2019 it is 58% complete.
Doing the math, the project completeness has increased by 3.2% ... in 8 months.
At that rate, the Regional Connector will be 100% complete in mid-2028.
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Post by jahanes on Sept 17, 2019 12:58:01 GMT -8
According to the progress chart, which is no longer published for the public, the project should have been around 69% complete by now. imgur.com/eTqqRJ4Also of note: September '18 photos showing the installation of concrete walls at bunker hill well underway, 1 story high on both sides. This month's report on bunker hill: "Structural concrete walls continue to be erected at multiple levels throughout the station." China would be too stunned to laugh. |
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Post by numble on Sept 19, 2019 13:03:38 GMT -8
According to the progress chart, which is no longer published for the public, the project should have been around 69% complete by now. imgur.com/eTqqRJ4Also of note: September '18 photos showing the installation of concrete walls at bunker hill well underway, 1 story high on both sides. This month's report on bunker hill: "Structural concrete walls continue to be erected at multiple levels throughout the station." China would be too stunned to laugh. The Metro board being made up of politicians with other responsibilities makes them a bad fit for supervising construction. In contrast, BART board directors are elected by voters to specifically be BART directors. The Metro Construction Committee meeting held today was opened and closed quickly presumably because the directors thought there was a better use of their time. The meeting lasted less than 1 minute: metro.legistar.com/Video.aspx?Mode=Granicus&ID1=1198&Mode2=Video |
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Post by cygnip2p on Sept 19, 2019 19:18:44 GMT -8
Considering the ongoing disaster up in SF with their downtown light rail subway, I really hope this project doesn't end up in the same situation, but it sure seems like it.
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Post by numble on Sept 23, 2019 15:47:39 GMT -8
August 2019 project status report is out:
59.1% done as of August 31, and the progress chart now shows the planned progress lines for early/mid/late planned progress (the actual progress is below all planned progress lines).
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Post by metrocenter on Sept 24, 2019 8:54:31 GMT -8
^ It looks like the current status is about 4/3/1 months behind the early/mid/late progress lines. Based on that alone, I would say we're three months behind schedule.
Also, I notice that under "design/builder equipment delivery requirements", it says they need "FAB/DELIV ESCALATORS - 1ST/CENTRAL" by April 2022. I don't know much about the construction business, but that seems like a very liberal delivery window. (I don't see how Metro expects to open the line in March 2022, before they require escalators to be delivered.)
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Post by metrocenter on Oct 16, 2019 8:57:17 GMT -8
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Post by bluelineshawn on Oct 16, 2019 11:09:55 GMT -8
I have full confidence that the board will be told that everything is proceeding on schedule and that they will ha e no questions. |
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Post by numble on Oct 23, 2019 22:48:21 GMT -8
September 2019 status report is 59.8% completion and 17 more days of delay added to the scheduled completion date.
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Post by numble on Nov 26, 2019 19:46:18 GMT -8
Oct 2019 status report:
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Post by bzcat on Dec 2, 2019 12:20:24 GMT -8
At this rate of <1% progress per month, we are looking at a mid 2023 opening.
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Post by numble on Dec 26, 2019 19:29:39 GMT -8
November 2019 status report: 61.4% and behind schedule. They deferred some work in Little Tokyo during the holidays based on community requests, and they think it will result in further delays.
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Post by metrocenter on Jan 14, 2020 9:36:17 GMT -8
Metro has published a Construction Committee report describing the current plan to get the Regional Connector running by 2022. In order to achieve their revenue service target of late 2022, Metro plans to cut off Little Tokyo service in late 2020. During this nearly two-year time span, they will tear down the old Little Tokyo surface station; build a trench ROW from 1st/Alameda to north of Temple/Alameda; and replace the ramp heading north toward the 101 freeway. During this time, a bus bridge will be established, which will continue to run until the Regional Connector opens. As for revenue service, Metro has long discussed the following operations pattern: - Long Beach - Azusa, Santa Monica - East LA.
Now they are also considering two other patterns: - Long Beach - East LA, Santa Monica - Azusa.
- Long Beach - East LA, Long Beach - Azusa, Santa Monica - Azusa, Santa Monica - East LA.
The last pattern is basically running every option as its own line. (That would wreak havoc on the new lettering system!) |
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Post by metrocenter on Jan 14, 2020 9:53:54 GMT -8
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Post by bzcat on Jan 14, 2020 10:41:27 GMT -8
Metro has published a Construction Committee report describing the current plan to get the Regional Connector running by 2022. In order to achieve their revenue service target of late 2022, Metro plans to cut off Little Tokyo service in late 2020. During this nearly two-year time span, they will tear down the old Little Tokyo surface station; build a trench ROW from 1st/Alameda to north of Temple/Alameda; and replace the ramp heading north toward the 101 freeway. During this time, a bus bridge will be established, which will continue to run until the Regional Connector opens. As for revenue service, Metro has long discussed the following operations pattern: - Long Beach - Azusa, Santa Monica - East LA.
Now they are also considering two other patterns: - Long Beach - East LA, Santa Monica - Azusa.
- Long Beach - East LA, Long Beach - Azusa, Santa Monica - Azusa, Santa Monica - East LA.
The last pattern is basically running every option as its own line. (That would wreak havoc on the new lettering system!) The last pattern (all 4 branches) increases headway for no real benefit in my opinion. Sure you get one seat ride but you also have to wait twice as long at the far end of the line. It's better to just transfer at one of the 4 transfer stations in DTLA - you likely won't have to wait as long as for the direct train. Metro must resist this stupid urge to run 4 branches. As for alternate pairing... I think there is some merit to the Santa Monica-Azusa and East LA-Long Beach pairing as opposed to the simple E-W & N-S pairing. Didn't Metro model the ridership of each pairing during the EIR for regional connector? I think we also need to look at this from a resource standpoint... which pairing will require more cars? Azusa-Long Beach is really long so Metro may have to dedicate more cars to it. East LA-Long Beach is a much closer in distance with Santa Monica-Azusa I think... so better balance in train allocation. But I'm just guessing. |
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