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Post by nickv on Dec 10, 2007 21:05:52 GMT -8
Bravo! Less Stop. More Go. OCTA has presented the branding of their BRT project to the Board of Directors on 11/26. Their name for BRT is Bravo!... ...pending Board Approval. Bravo! appears to have a very similar structure to Metro Rapid, except that the lines will be branded by color if the branding is approved. Red LineFullerton to Costa Mesa via Chapman Av & Harbor Bl Blue LineSanta Ana to Long Beach via 17th St Green LineBrea to Irvine via Bristol St & Main St The following presentation was presented at the 11/26 Board of Directors Meeting: www.octa.net/pdf/112607/bravo.pdf
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Post by tonyw79sfv on Dec 10, 2007 21:57:32 GMT -8
I've been wondering what's been going on with OCTA's BRT project. The BRT lines are suppose to open one each year, 2008 (Harbor), 2009 (17th/Westminster), and 2010 (Brea-Irvine/29mile). As always, the primary colors (RGB) are commonly used (which is no different than our LA Metro Rail); also interesting to note OCTA's Blue Line BRT will interface with LA Metro Rail's Blue Line. Also, most city's "Red Line" is the most busiest line of their system and Harbor is no different, complementary line 43 is OCTA's busiest and Red is a good color choice for it as our Red Line subway (busiest in LA Metro Rail). Let's hope they can implement their system better than our Metro Rapid sysytem, which tends to run in "platoons".
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Post by wad on Dec 14, 2007 0:03:07 GMT -8
What is the operation plan for the Blue Line? Will OCTA now be responsible for what is Zap service along Seventh Street in Long Beach, and will it pick up westbound passengers in L.A. County? Presently, Line 60 can be ridden as a local on eastbound trips; westbound, it is discharge only in Long Beach.
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Post by nickv on Dec 14, 2007 10:06:17 GMT -8
Those restrictions were actually changed I think a few years ago: Buses operate on a limited stop basis in Long Beach between the V. A. Hospital and Long Beach Transit Mall. During all hours of operation and in both directions, passengers may board and alight buses at the limited stops.Although Zap 96 appears to duplicate Line 60 and the Bravo Line along 7th St, the Zap operates during rush hours only. OCTA's Bravo system is proposed to start at 5 AM and continue until 8 PM on weekdays. The busses will run every 10 minutes during rush hour and 20 minutes at other times. Local Line 60 operates about every 30 minutes through the Long Beach area from Leisure World to the transit mall with 15 minute service from Leisure World to Tustin Av & 17th. That's all the information I gathered for now; I'll have to get back with you on how the two agencies are going to work out the Bravo. Sources: www.octa.net/pdf/dec07/route060.pdfwww.lbtransit.com/schedules/pdf/96.pdfwww.octa.net/uploadedfiles/Files/pdf/brtwest.pdf
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Post by spokker on Jul 20, 2008 16:36:37 GMT -8
Any progress on the route that will follow Harbor Blvd? I've read that it will be starting anywhere from late Summer to December. I also read it will serve Cal State Fullerton. That would be a huge bonus for me since I'll be attending CSUF this fall. Any idea what the stops would be like? A mile apart right? If there's one at Harbor Blvd. and Chapman Ave (the Chapman in Garden Grove) I would take back every bad thing I've ever said about the OCTA Any info would be appreciated!
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Post by nickv on Jul 20, 2008 22:55:56 GMT -8
Harbor Boulevard Bravo! Corridor
Spoker, from the OCTA Web Site, the Bravo! will stop at CSUF, but we've still got some waiting to do. It is scheduled to be ready next summer. So we have another year to wait out. Hopefully by the Fall 2009 Semester, it will be ready.
Harbor Boulevard is the busiest bus route in the county. Because of heavy ridership along this route and to reduce customer travel times, the Harbor Boulevard Bravo! Corridor will be the first of three BRT projects to be implemented by OCTA within the next two years.
The Harbor Boulevard Bravo! Corridor will provide service from California State University, Fullerton to Newport Beach. Service is scheduled to begin in summer 2009, followed by full implementation including enhanced identity on new shelters and technology elements in late 2009.
Station stops along the route will provide easy access to these key destinations:
• California State University, Fullerton • Fullerton College • Fullerton Transportation Center • Anaheim Resort Area/Disneyland • Orange Coast College • Triangle Square • Newport Beach Pier You’ll find more information about operations and funding on the Bravo! Harbor Boulevard Corridor Fact Sheet.
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Post by spokker on Jul 21, 2008 0:44:37 GMT -8
Ah, I guess it's been pushed back. Damn. Thanks for the info.
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Post by wrcousert on Aug 7, 2008 20:21:42 GMT -8
I like it, but why is OCTA taking so long to implement all three lines?
Why don't they have BRT (or Night Owl) service planned for Beach Blvd? It's one of the busiest streets in the county, probably second after Harbor Blvd.
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Post by wad on Aug 8, 2008 3:21:10 GMT -8
Beach Boulevard is probably the third busiest north-south street in Orange County, after Harbor Boulevard and Bristol Street. Main Street (Line 53) is also pretty busy.
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Post by wrcousert on Aug 14, 2008 22:25:26 GMT -8
Beach Boulevard is probably the third busiest north-south street in Orange County, after Harbor Boulevard and Bristol Street. Main Street (Line 53) is also pretty busy. It's busy enough to justify Night Owl service.
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Post by wrcousert on Aug 14, 2008 22:30:06 GMT -8
>OCTA's Bravo system is proposed to start at 5 AM and continue until 8 PM on weekdays. The three initial routes duplicate existing routes with Night Owl service. Do you know if Bravo! will eventually go Night Owl as well? Why aren't they using articulated buses?
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Post by nickv on Dec 11, 2009 13:43:10 GMT -8
Signal Synchronization Will Replace Bravo! Bus Rapid Transit
11/23/2009: The Bravo! Bus Rapid Transit (BRT) program, scheduled for completion in June 2010, will be deferred because of budget concerns and to help preserve fixed-route bus service. Signal synchronization will be implemented in place of BRT to fulfill air quality mandates.
Signal synchronization allows a series of lights along a street to turn green based on timers set to traffic patterns and congestion levels. The program is designed to improve the flow of traffic during peak commuting hours.
Signal synchronization will serve the same locations as planned under BRT, which include:
• Harbor Boulevard from Chapman Avenue to Newport Boulevard
• Westminster Boulevard from Seal Beach Boulevard to Costa Mesa Freeway (SR-55)
• Bristol Street / State College Boulevard from Imperial Highway to Sunflower Avenue
Remarks: I'm going to put together a TTC ABIE Campaign dubbed "Transit: Reconnecting Orange County" which will provide a gateway and assistance to our friends Orange County Transit Advocates since Orange County is the workplace for many Inland Empire residents. OC is long overdue for fast transit alternatives to slow local bus rides for cross-regional trips.
I've already begun putting together some conceptual maps and ideas and I am currently exploring funding alternatives to keep (or restore) vital transportation routes from early morning to late night, every day including the Bravo! system.
TTC ABIE has also lobbied the Riverside Transit Agency (with support of a 2007 COA study) to expand express bus transit service between Orange County and Riverside from its current span to hourly with direct connections to the proposed ARTIC intermodal station.
Stay tuned for more information!
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Post by spokker on Dec 11, 2009 16:46:20 GMT -8
It's a shame what happened to Bravo. I felt it was really going to revolutionize transit in Orange County. So far $5.9 million in "Go Local" funds are going toward the study of a $500 million monorail link between the Anaheim Resort Area and ARTIC. The project will ultimately benefit tourists. It seems that such funds should be used to study rapid bus implementations to benefit tourists and everyday Orange County commuters. www.transitrideroc.com/2009/12/anaheim-pushing-expensive-slow-mARTIC is planned to have an underground bus terminal that rapid bus lines could have stops at. Give it a snazzy name and advertise it and tourists will use it. The rapid bus will get you as close to the Resort Area as the monorail's proposed stops will.
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Post by dasubergeek on Dec 15, 2009 13:13:53 GMT -8
Signal Synchronization Will Replace Bravo! Bus Rapid Transit
11/23/2009: The Bravo! Bus Rapid Transit (BRT) program, scheduled for completion in June 2010, will be deferred because of budget concerns and to help preserve fixed-route bus service. Signal synchronization will be implemented in place of BRT to fulfill air quality mandates.
Signal synchronization allows a series of lights along a street to turn green based on timers set to traffic patterns and congestion levels. The program is designed to improve the flow of traffic during peak commuting hours.
Signal synchronization will serve the same locations as planned under BRT, which include:
• Harbor Boulevard from Chapman Avenue to Newport Boulevard
• Westminster Boulevard from Seal Beach Boulevard to Costa Mesa Freeway (SR-55)
• Bristol Street / State College Boulevard from Imperial Highway to Sunflower Avenue It's a shame that it's been cancelled, but I'm happy about the signal synch. Anyone who's ever driven from the 5 to the 22 on The City Dr. knows what a total pain in the arse it is to get through Orange with all those stupid lights by the Block. That is the reason that it takes 20 minutes for me to take the 57 bus to work and 22 minutes to ride out to the river trail and bike to work. It's even worse with the lights added for all those apartment buildings in the Platinum Triangle, too. I still want BRT, but signal synch will improve the lot of drivers, too, at least initially. (Signal synch falls out a year or so into the experiment as the individual cities monkey with the timing—it happened on Euclid.) As for Harbor Blvd., I'm not sure how signal synch will help. The biggest problem for Harbor is pedestrian traffic; up in Fullerton, then near Disneyland, and then in Santa Ana. You could speed up the service hugely by building pedestrian overpasses at key points, such as near the entrance to Disneyland, but if you don't take the pedestrians (who ignore the crossing signals and delay traffic, including buses) out of the picture you might as well forget it.
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Post by tonyw79sfv on May 5, 2013 8:05:25 GMT -8
It took them a while; OCTA Bravo! Route 543 debuts 10th June 2013. This weekday rapid bus service will run from 5am to 6pm operating along OCTA's busiest bus corridor, route 43 Harbor Boulevard, with stops including Fullerton Transportation Center (Amtrak/Metrolink) and Disneyland/Anaheim Convention Center. This rapid bus service is a culmination of OCTA's attempts at better public transportation service after cancelling the CenterLine LRT project, plans for a Metro Orange Line-like (or Omnitrans sbX-like) BRT, and scaling back what was suppose to be half-hourly Metrolink service to 5 additional weekday round trips within their service area. OCTA Bravo! Route 543 map
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