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Post by Elson on Jun 8, 2005 2:20:50 GMT -8
MBL LRT #109 taken June 7, 2005: Waiting at 7MC. Front view. Coupled with a car with the second LRT fleet scheme. Interior view. This 1990 car now shares the upholstery pattern of the Siemens LRVs.
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Post by Elson on Mar 11, 2007 18:15:04 GMT -8
MBL LRT #109 taken June 7, 2005: Waiting at 7MC. What happened to these cars? I don't see this scheme anymore. Aren't they supposed to convert the entire fleet to the Silver scheme? Or did they realize that they weren't a good idea from a traffic safety standpoint?
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Post by Justin Walker on Mar 11, 2007 18:19:47 GMT -8
Wow. That car looks surprisingly snazzy in that first shot.
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Post by Transit Coalition on Mar 11, 2007 19:11:17 GMT -8
I've written Wilbur Babb and Melvin Clark over at Metro Rail. We should get an answer on the status of the rail car painting within the next week.
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Post by Elson on Mar 11, 2007 19:44:39 GMT -8
From a rider's opinion, Metro painted themselves into a corner, so to speak, when they chose the silver scheme for the railcars and Metro Liner buses.
Aside from the low-road visibility (certainly an issue on the Orange Line), they also ruin the two-tone scheme they nicely applied to their Local, Rapid and Express buses.
I personally think they should make the rail vehicles white on the top and silver on the bottom, to follow the two-tone scheme and to increase visibility on the streets.
Also, the new P2550 LRVs don't look very flattering in all silver. A lot of people have criticized they look a little too "third world" with the plain fluted sides.
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Post by D on Mar 14, 2007 23:02:25 GMT -8
for some reason, i really like the silver with the stripe. i know its very basic, but it looks sleek to me.
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Post by whitmanlam on Mar 14, 2007 23:34:46 GMT -8
For safety purposes I think neon orange is needed to make the train stand out in foggy conditions. It might be ugly, but it might save lives.
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Post by bluelineshawn on Mar 15, 2007 21:18:22 GMT -8
I see them all the time, but it's still just cars 109 and 148. No new cars have been painted "silver."
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Post by Transit Coalition on Mar 15, 2007 23:59:24 GMT -8
And, it appears that there is no Fleet repainting scheduled for the cars on the Blue Line for the next several years, so you will only see the Silver Breda equipment, which is currently arriving for pre-revenue testing.
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Post by Elson on Mar 16, 2007 0:05:59 GMT -8
And, it appears that there is no Fleet repainting scheduled for the cars on the Blue Line for the next several years, so you will only see the Silver Breda equipment, which is currently arriving for pre-revenue testing. Gee, I wonder why they stopped it at two cars...
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Post by bluelineshawn on Mar 16, 2007 6:43:08 GMT -8
They should have just left them painted red if they weren't going to continue painting the rest of the fleet.
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Post by Elson on Mar 16, 2007 9:45:51 GMT -8
They should have just left them painted red if they weren't going to continue painting the rest of the fleet. Red???
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Post by bluelineshawn on Mar 16, 2007 17:49:38 GMT -8
from nycsubway.org courtesy of salaam allah. same car as the one in your picture.
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Post by Elson on Mar 16, 2007 18:44:51 GMT -8
from nycsubway.org courtesy of salaam allah. same car as the one in your picture. I was talking about the silver cars. But then I just realized now that the same Pacific Electric-style cars became the "Silver Streak" guinea pig cars. I agree they should have been left PE red, just paint out the "10th Anniversary Special Edition" since its no longer relevant (the line, and hence the cars, is almost 20 years old now...)
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Post by wad on Mar 16, 2007 23:24:02 GMT -8
Man, I miss those Red Car replicas. When 109 and 148 were painted over to the silver, it was going from the penthouse to the outhouse. The "silver" actually looks more like the train left the yard still in its primer coat.
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Post by James Fujita on Mar 17, 2007 1:47:50 GMT -8
heh. the retro cars always make me think "somewhere in the multiverse, there's an alternate reality Los Angeles where the Pacific Electric never sold out or shut down and ergo, they are still painting light rail trains in those vintage colors..." and you could still get from Los Angeles to Newport Beach on a trolley ^_^
seriously, couldn't they have kept the trippy paint jobs on those two?
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Post by Elson on Mar 17, 2007 12:33:34 GMT -8
heh. the retro cars always make me think "somewhere in the multiverse, there's an alternate reality Los Angeles where the Pacific Electric never sold out or shut down and ergo, they are still painting light rail trains in those vintage colors..." and you could still get from Los Angeles to Newport Beach on a trolley ^_^ seriously, couldn't they have kept the trippy paint jobs on those two? Yeah I agree. Well, the 20th anniversary is just a few years away... The project was conceived by the Electric Railway Historical Society of Southern CA. www.erha.org. Maybe ask them if they're planning on another PE repaint for the line's 20th anniversary in 2010.
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Post by erict on Mar 17, 2007 14:24:37 GMT -8
I think the silver is sleek and modern looking - the red was nice too, but I like the new look.
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Post by bluelineshawn on Mar 21, 2007 22:32:30 GMT -8
And, it appears that there is no Fleet repainting scheduled for the cars on the Blue Line for the next several years, so you will only see the Silver Breda equipment, which is currently arriving for pre-revenue testing. I wish that I would see that on the blue line, but I only ever saw them in the yard and that was over a year ago. I kind of remember seeing recently that the MTA had authorized the purchase of additional equipment to replace the aging blue line fleet. I guess that's the additional 50 car option on the Breda cars. Can anyone confirm that the MTA did indeed exercise the option?
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Post by roadtrainer on Apr 14, 2007 23:34:46 GMT -8
Those red card paint jobs were nice, but I would love also to see these cars repainted up to look like the MTA of the 1960's, the two tone green and white! The Road Trainer
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Post by bluelineshawn on Jun 19, 2007 7:55:57 GMT -8
Looks like the new paint scheme is a plain car with no stripes. Check out car 105. I also noticed that they're getting rid of the red stripes on the red line cars and putting "Metro" at the top.
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Post by Tony Fernandez on Jun 19, 2007 8:24:17 GMT -8
Well that doesn't look too bad. I just wish that the trains could always look that clean and glossy.
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Post by James Fujita on Jun 19, 2007 8:43:41 GMT -8
hmmm. not bad. interesting that they're keeping that big black raccoon stripe around the middle. other than the retro paint job, that seems to be the one consistant element on all of the paint schemes.
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Post by Elson on Jun 28, 2007 0:43:54 GMT -8
Man, I miss those Red Car replicas. When 109 and 148 were painted over to the silver, it was going from the penthouse to the outhouse. The "silver" actually looks more like the train left the yard still in its primer coat. Well, 2010 will be the 20th anniversary of the Blue Line...hopefully ERHA will do another two cars...
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Post by Mac on Aug 14, 2007 19:34:25 GMT -8
How about a silver car with blue stripes. i think that would be nice.
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Post by losangeles2319 on Mar 18, 2009 12:57:57 GMT -8
I think the old cars should be retired, sent to Traveltown Museum. They're far to boxy for nowadays. not that old is bad but in trying to revive the Blue line to... better standards, i think it'd do some good.
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Post by bobdavis on Mar 19, 2009 14:52:51 GMT -8
Retire the 100-series cars? They're less than 20 years old! San Diego is still using their 1000-class cars that have been in service for over a quarter century. As far as their "boxy" bodies are concerned, most people riding public transit don't give two hoots about vehicle appearance. As long as the car or bus is A) on time, B) clean, and C) comfortable, it could be a brand new LRV or a wooden interurban (or a new LNG bus or an "old look" coach from the 50s). When the 100's started running in 1990, most of us were just glad to see electric railroading return to LA after a 27-year hiatus, never mind what the cars looked like. As far as what to do when the 100-class finally do become historical relics, Orange Empire Ry Museum with a couple of miles of track and 600-volt trolley wire would be more appropriate than static display at Travel Town. (this is assuming that OERM is interested in cars that require high level boarding platforms when the cars are retired). It would be quite a sight to see--PE interurban cars, by then over 100 years old, on the same track with LRV's, but don't expect it to happen any time soon, if ever.
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Post by carter on Jun 11, 2011 8:45:45 GMT -8
MBL LRT #109 taken June 7, 2005: Waiting at 7MC. Just wanted to bump this photo. Whatever happened to these silver cars? They look super sleek.
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Post by bluelineshawn on Jun 11, 2011 15:22:12 GMT -8
They were repainted white. 109 was eventually repainted into the regular scheme and 105 is still white.
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Post by James Fujita on Jun 11, 2011 16:33:29 GMT -8
That's too bad, silver and gray is a great color scheme. Even makes the trains look newer, somehow.
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