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Post by rubbertoe on Jan 16, 2013 6:47:48 GMT -8
December numbers are in: And the links to the larger versions: i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac27/RubberToe420/Combined12-12OriginalLarge_zps531e4e20.jpgi882.photobucket.com/albums/ac27/RubberToe420/Combined12-12NewLarge_zpsd6919990.jpgQuite a nice December. Normally December is the low for the year, but this year December came in just a tad under November ridership. And November was the busiest month ever. YOY is most impressive, up 33.35% which is the best YOY figure ever. No doubt helped by Expo. The rise from December lows to summer highs the last 3 years has been: 20%, 29% and 23%. If we see a 20% into the summer of 2013, that would get us to 243,871. It is entirely possible that we could see 250,000 daily light rail riders in the summer The combined light rail ridership stands at 203,226 which is up 50,824 YOY or 33.35% like I mentioned. Blue is up 17,884 YOY (24.22%) to 91,709. Green is up 7,112 YOY (18.27%) to 46,029. And Gold is up 2,635 YOY (6.64%) to 42,295. Expo notches a new high at 23,193. Now at 38 consecutive months of light rail ridership increases. RT P.S. The Red Line is up 12% YOY, Silver up 19% YOY, and Orange up 15% YOY.
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Post by TransportationZ on Jan 16, 2013 17:12:41 GMT -8
If Expo is STILL increasing EVEN in the winter slump, Expo is going to have MONSTER ridership in the summer. 27-30k should be pretty easy. Even further, imagine it getting to Santa Monica and it will rival the legendary blue line in busyness.
Even the fact the other lines have not dropped against the winter slump means 2013 is going to be a good year for Metro Rail.
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Post by rubbertoe on Feb 14, 2013 5:58:10 GMT -8
Welcome to 2013 in Los Angeles rail transit: And the larger graphs: i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac27/RubberToe420/Combined01-13OriginalLarge_zps2257bd58.jpgi882.photobucket.com/albums/ac27/RubberToe420/Combined01-13NewLarge_zps43dbe5c3.jpgWe have come down a bit off the November 2012 highs, but YOY all the light rail lines are up in January, a combined 23.66%. The combined light rail ridership stands at 200,638 which is up 38,394 YOY or 23.66% like I mentioned. Blue is up 10,331 YOY (13.16%) to 88,846. Green is up 2,541 YOY (5.96%) to 45,141. And Gold is up 1,347 YOY (3.28%) to 42,476. Expo again notches a new high at 24,175. It looks like the ongoing ridership increases that we have seen on the Gold Line since the EE opened up back in November 2009 are starting to tail off. YOY increases for October 2012 through January 2013 were respectively: 15%, 11%, 6% and now 3%. The recent weekend headway reduction from 12 to 6 minutes may end up pulling in some additional weekday riders. In October 2009 before the EE opened, the Gold Line was at 21,322. In October 2013, it stood at 42,417. So basically, the addition of the EE doubled the ridership in the 4 years since it opened up . Now at 39 consecutive months of light rail ridership increases. The seasonal rise to the summer highs should be visible starting next month. Looking forward to a huge summer with the Expo line in full swing. RT P.S. The Red Line is up 9% YOY, Silver up 17% YOY, and Orange up 13% YOY.
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Post by macross287 on Feb 14, 2013 20:54:15 GMT -8
Here are the per mile boardings for January Blue: 4,038 Expo: 2,779 Green: 2,257 Gold: 2,156 Metro has noticed that the Gold Line increases have been flattening, particular the Eastside Branch, and issued a report last month on how to increase ridership on the line. www.metro.net/board/Items/2013/01_January/20130117OPItem61.pdfThe only proposal on the report that has any real merit is to increase the speed on the Eastside branch. I can't imagine the conversion of the Montebello express buses to feeder buses to the gold line that would require passengers to transfer to shuttle buses at little tokyo to get into downtown as being a real improvement.
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Post by jamesinclair on Feb 14, 2013 21:06:34 GMT -8
The blue line increase is massive.
Ladies and gentlemen, the network effect.
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Post by rubbertoe on Mar 12, 2013 13:21:23 GMT -8
The February data is now up, but I'm holding off posting the graphs until they correct an error in the posted data. The Gold and Green lines have exactly the values for all three services. BTW, for all you Expo fans, Expo ticked up to 25,295 from 24,175 the previous month.
RT
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Post by gatewaygent on Mar 12, 2013 15:16:06 GMT -8
Every time I see postings on this particular thread, I keep thinking that this ridiculous extension is coming closer to approval. I will, however, say that if a MOS to Garfield Av. with a station on Via Campo were proposed, I'd back that. There's a property on the corner of Via Campo and Garfield Av. just waiting for a Park N Ride. Of course, there was a gas station on that property previously, so it would have to be decontaminated and who knows how much that would add in cost to a Park N Ride plus station.
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Post by rubbertoe on Mar 13, 2013 6:56:47 GMT -8
February numbers have now been corrected: And the links to the larger versions: i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac27/RubberToe420/Combined02-13OriginalLarge_zpsdb05a60e.jpgi882.photobucket.com/albums/ac27/RubberToe420/Combined02-13NewLarge_zps3c290c7d.jpgFebruary ridership was up slightly over January. And since we are now moving into the higher ridership part of the year, its pretty safe to say that we will never see less than 200,000 daily riders again. August 2012 ridership was 199,443 and since then we have been over 200,000 every month. We are also at almost two straight years of gas prices never dipping below $3.50 per gallon. The combined light rail ridership stands at 200,726 which is up 32,470 YOY or 19.30%. Even excluding the Expo Line, the increase was 7,175. Blue is up 4,626 YOY (5.55%) to 88,023. Green is up 605 YOY (1.38%) to 44,317. And Gold is up 1,944 YOY (4.72%) to 43,091. Expo again notches a new high at 25,295. Only the Expo Line hit a new high this month. Now at 40 consecutive months of light rail ridership increases. RT P.S. The Red Line is up 6% YOY, Silver up 17% YOY, and Orange up 14% YOY.
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Post by gatewaygent on Mar 13, 2013 11:39:57 GMT -8
This is good news! It must mean that people are starting to get fed up with high gas prices and are seeking alternatives. I can't wait for Phase II of the Expo Line to open though. I'm so curious to see if the numbers are going to rival those of the Blue Line. In the interim, let's hope the Expo Line Phase I defects and Blue/Expo Line switches are addressed and settled so that the perception of gained speed and consistancy compels prospective riders to use the alternative.
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Post by LAofAnaheim on Mar 13, 2013 12:44:10 GMT -8
This is good news! It must mean that people are starting to get fed up with high gas prices and are seeking alternatives. I can't wait for Phase II of the Expo Line to open though. I'm so curious to see if the numbers are going to rival those of the Blue Line. In the interim, let's hope the Expo Line Phase I defects and Blue/Expo Line switches are addressed and settled so that the perception of gained speed and consistancy compels prospective riders to use the alternative. Though gas prices is one indicator, I wouldn't consider it the primary reason why transit ridership is increasing. There is a sea of culture change in America, more people (esp young people) would rather spend money/time on their smartphones than behind a car. They see a car as a hinderance and not an asset anymore to freedom. Smartphones are freedom. Transit ridership is increasing all throughout the United States. People would rather tweet/facebook status update than have their hands occupied holding a wheel behind a car. This is also another reason why more people are moving downtown than to the suburbs. It's a generational shift. Good article here: www.cnn.com/2013/03/11/travel/us-public-transportation-report
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Post by gatewaygent on Mar 14, 2013 10:57:02 GMT -8
Thank you Anaheim, great story! I have read other news items that corroborate the trend. As I'm writing, there's a show on PBS about things that aren't here anymore and it covered the Pacific Electric, The Subway Terminal, Ocean Park, The Pike (which I still remember), etc. It's good to know that even though the amusement parks won't be returning, our rail transit system is expanding. We're not going to see the system we had in it's hay-day, but that's OK. Besides, I don't think Metro could support a 1,000 mile LRT/HRT system today, even if it had better than average ridership.
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Post by TransportationZ on Mar 14, 2013 17:31:56 GMT -8
Metro has noticed that the Gold Line increases have been flattening, particular the Eastside Branch, and issued a report last month on how to increase ridership on the line. www.metro.net/board/Items/2013/01_January/20130117OPItem61.pdfThe only proposal on the report that has any real merit is to increase the speed on the Eastside branch. I can't imagine the conversion of the Montebello express buses to feeder buses to the gold line that would require passengers to transfer to shuttle buses at little tokyo to get into downtown as being a real improvement. I agree. I think the problem with the Gold Line is that it's serving two incomplete corridors. Pasadena is a prime example. The number one complaint I hear about the Pasadena Gold Line is that it ends awkwardly at a Sierra Madre Villa. Most commuters seem to be coming from further East. The GLEE is in a similar situation. The Gold Line not going far enough into downtown problem will be easily fixed with the Regional Connector. EE Phase II should also help.
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Post by rubbertoe on Apr 16, 2013 13:22:36 GMT -8
March numbers are up: And the links to the larger files: i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac27/RubberToe420/Combined03-13OriginalLarge_zpsb311704c.jpgi882.photobucket.com/albums/ac27/RubberToe420/Combined03-13NewLarge_zpsf721f5dd.jpgMarch ridership was up over February, increasing the gain from January. The recent gas price spike ($4.31) brought the prices close to the early 2012 highs of $4.37. The combined light rail ridership stands at 201,101 which is up 28,988 YOY or 16.84%. Blue is up 2,469 YOY (2.91%) to 87,421. Green is up only 108 YOY (0.25%) to 44,133. And Gold is up 428 YOY (0.99%) to 43,564. Expo again notches a new high at 25,983. Only the Expo Line hit a new high this month. The thing that is starting to jump out is that the last couple months of YOY increases have been much smaller than the preceding 4-6 months. I believe that someone posted previously that the MTA is aware of this WRT the Gold Line specifically and were looking into what could be done to get ridership growing again. Now at 41 consecutive months of light rail ridership increases. RT P.S. The Red Line is up 5% YOY, Silver up 12% YOY, and Orange up 12% YOY.
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Post by gatewaygent on Apr 16, 2013 16:15:16 GMT -8
Increase Gold Line ridership in East L.A.... Hmm? I wonder if building a MOS from Atlantic Station to Garfield Av./Whittier Bl. would help. Ultimately what's going to help is the Connector. It's great that the Gold Line goes to LAUS, but speaking from experience, I hate that Gold to Red/Purple (and vice versa) trek. Why didn't the transit planners insist on building the Gold Line in a way where a staircase/elevator/escalator went straight to the Red/Purple Lines platform from the Gold Line platform instead of having to run to one of the two ends of Union Station to go catch it. If this is considered "integration", I'd hate to see what happens at Vermont/Wilshire when the Vermont Corridor is developed.
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Post by erict on Apr 17, 2013 5:13:53 GMT -8
There is a plan to more directly connect the gold line to the red line platform, or at least I saw it on here once. It has been shelved for now. I am not sure if it connected the Galloway to the red line or the platform. ..... It's great that the Gold Line goes to LAUS, but speaking from experience, I hate that Gold to Red/Purple (and vice versa) trek. Why didn't the transit planners insist on building the Gold Line in a way where a staircase/elevator/escalator went straight to the Red/Purple Lines platform from the Gold Line platform instead of having to run to one of the two ends of Union Station to go catch it. If this is considered "integration", I'd hate to see what happens at Vermont/Wilshire when the Vermont Corridor is developed.
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Post by rubbertoe on Apr 24, 2013 14:08:08 GMT -8
There is a plan to more directly connect the gold line to the red line platform, or at least I saw it on here once. It has been shelved for now. I am not sure if it connected the Galloway to the red line or the platform I read that one of the primary inputs made during the public input phase for the Union Station master plan was for increased connections on site. Directly connecting the Gold and Red line platforms sure seems like a no brainer in that regard. Does anyone know for sure whether that option is even possible in the context of the US master plan, or would that have to be a separate MTA project? RT
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Post by rubbertoe on May 14, 2013 9:27:12 GMT -8
They got the Green Line ridership wrong yesterday, they repeated the March numbers for April. I emailed them and pointed it out, so they now made the Green Line numbers the same as the Gold Line numbers: I'll shoot them another e-mail and see what kind of perturbation we end up with this time... RT
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Post by rubbertoe on May 16, 2013 6:37:18 GMT -8
Correct (hopefully) April numbers are (finally) up: And the links to the larger graphs: i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac27/RubberToe420/Combined04-13OriginalLarge_zps7221780d.jpgi882.photobucket.com/albums/ac27/RubberToe420/Combined04-13NewLarge_zps6415ac28.jpgApril ridership saw a slight decline from March, and just slipped below the 200,000 level for the first time since August 2012. Gas also dipped below $4 from the recent highs too. The combined light rail ridership stands at 198,978 which is up 29,012 YOY or 17.07%. Blue is up 2,933 YOY (3.47%) to 87,392. Green is actually down 921 YOY (-2.13%) to 42,416. And Gold is up 1,269 YOY (3.01%) to 43,439. Expo startup momentum has slowed, with the first decline to 25,731. Of note, the Gold Line has surpassed the Green Line in ridership, for only the third time. Not sure just whats up with the Green Line . Now at 42 consecutive months of light rail ridership increases. RT P.S. The Red Line is up 5% YOY, Silver up 15% YOY, and Orange up 21% YOY.
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Post by rubbertoe on Jun 13, 2013 6:16:44 GMT -8
May numbers are now out: And the larger links: i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac27/RubberToe420/Combined05-13OriginalLarge_zps50c1178c.jpgi882.photobucket.com/albums/ac27/RubberToe420/Combined05-13NewLarge_zps537f8be3.jpgMay ridership saw a slight decline from April, and is still below the 200,000 level. The combined light rail ridership stands at 197,715 which is up 14,358 YOY or 7.83%. This is the first single digit % increase in a long time, and we are now starting to see the "Expo Effect" starting to dissipate. Blue is up 2,914 YOY (3.49%) to 86,310. Green is down 3,431 YOY (-7.62%) to 41,569. And Gold is down 441 YOY (-1.01%) to 43,173. Expo now also has YOY numbers and is up 15,316 YOY (134.98%) to 26,663. Note that the total ridership increase 14,358 is due to the Expo line increase of 15,316, so the other lines combined are overall down. The Gold Line has now surpassed the Green Line for two consecutive months. The last 3 years, the May-June rise has been between 8k and 16k riders, so teh summer bump should appear in some form or another next month. Now at 43 consecutive months of light rail ridership increases. RT P.S. The Red Line is up 4% YOY, Silver up 12% YOY, and Orange up 16% YOY. The BRT lines continue their nice increases, though from a lower ridership number.
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Post by rubbertoe on Jul 19, 2013 7:21:47 GMT -8
June numbers are out: And the links to the larger versions: i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac27/RubberToe420/Combined06-13OriginalLarge_zps8fafbcd8.jpgi882.photobucket.com/albums/ac27/RubberToe420/Combined06-13NewLarge_zps84274010.jpgJune numbers have finally up-ticked from May, but the YOU numbers are barely up (Expo). The combined light rail ridership stands at 199,856 which is up a scant 461 YOY or 0.21%. We are now starting to see the "Expo Effect" starting to dissipate. Blue is down 3,038 YOY (-3.39%) to 86,485. Green is down 3,917 YOY (-8.46%) to 42,361. And Gold is down 2,909 YOY (-6.91%) to 44,116. Expo is up 10,325 YOY (62.32%) to 26,894. The Gold Line has now surpassed the Green Line for three consecutive months. The May-June rise was only a bit over 2,000 riders. Now at 44 consecutive months of light rail ridership increases, with the long stretch possibly coming to an end next month. The July 2012 level was 200,244 and this June was 199,856. We only need about a 400 increase. I think it will happen. With employment up in LA County, we should start seeing some increased ridership. Not sure exactly why the uptrend has stopped so suddenly. Gas stands at $4.01, and looks to be going up pretty soon with WTI now at almost $110 per barrel. RT P.S. The Red Line is down 2% YOY, Silver up 13% YOY, and Orange up 13% YOY. The BRT lines again continue their nice increases, though from a lower ridership number. The Orange Line carries more riders than Expo for now, about 800 more.
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Post by rubbertoe on Aug 23, 2013 6:09:13 GMT -8
July numbers are in: And the links to the larger images: i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac27/RubberToe420/Combined07-13OriginalLarge_zps37c667b8.jpgi882.photobucket.com/albums/ac27/RubberToe420/Combined07-13NewLarge_zps0701f4c0.jpgThe combined light rail ridership stands at 201,442 which is up a scant 1,198 YOY or 0.60%. Just avoided the drop that looked to be coming in the June trend numbers. We are now back up over 200,000 after falling below it for 3 straight months. Blue is down 1,558 YOY (-1.75%) to 87,597. Green is down 4,544 YOY (-9.62%) to 42,670. And Gold is down 1,427 YOY (-3.12%) to 44,267. Expo is up 8,727 YOY (48.00%) to 26,908. Expo increases are covering the losses from all the other lines, but this will come to an end pretty soon since Expo seems to have stabilized around the 27,000 level. On a more positive note, the Blue and Gold lines lost fewer riders in July compared to June, but the Green Line is getting to the point where we could see a 10% YOY decline at any time. The Gold Line has now surpassed the Green Line for four consecutive months. Now at 45 consecutive months of light rail ridership increases. Gas stands at $4.05, up from $3.73 a year agol. RT P.S. The Red Line is up 7% YOY, Silver up 10% YOY, and Orange up 4% YOY. The Orange Line carries more riders than Expo, about 250 more.
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Post by jamesinclair on Sept 2, 2013 21:41:43 GMT -8
Has the green line been experiencing anything extraordinary? Weekend maintenance, night shut downs etc?
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Post by rubbertoe on Oct 8, 2013 11:12:00 GMT -8
August numbers are here: And the links to the larger versions: i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac27/RubberToe420/Combined08-13OriginalLarge_zps96fe6d14.jpgi882.photobucket.com/albums/ac27/RubberToe420/Combined08-13NewLarge_zps2d226839.jpgThe combined light rail ridership stands at 202,047 which is up 2,604 YOY or 1.31%. Blue is down 4,283 YOY (-4.66%) to 87,723. Green is down 2,943 YOY (-6.46%) to 42,593. And Gold is up 2,326 YOY (5.52%) to 44,451. Expo is up 7,504 YOY (37.94%) to 27,280. The Gold Line has now surpassed the Green Line for 5 consecutive months. Now at 46 consecutive months of light rail ridership increases. Gas stands at $4.02, up from $3.84 a year ago. RT P.S. The Red Line is up 6% YOY, Silver up 10% YOY, and Orange up 2% YOY. P.P.S. One thing I should mention, we do have an all time high. The total rail ridership, including the 4 light rail lines and the subway, hit a new all time high of 366,128 in August.
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Post by jamesinclair on Oct 12, 2013 16:22:52 GMT -8
The loss of seasonal fluctuations for the blue line is very odd
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Post by culvercitylocke on Oct 13, 2013 23:33:52 GMT -8
could the green line decline be due to employer closures or slowdowns in the el segundo area? I seem to recall hearing some of the big defense contractors were shifting HQ to DC?
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Post by bzcat on Oct 16, 2013 13:57:39 GMT -8
could the green line decline be due to employer closures or slowdowns in the el segundo area? I seem to recall hearing some of the big defense contractors were shifting HQ to DC? More likely there has been some shift in ridership patterns since the Expo line opened. Even with lost of some jobs in the area (I don't think there is any significant change but let's assume there is), it wouldn't have much impact on ridership. The El Segundo segment of the Green line (from Imperial station to Redondo Station) has abysmal ridership, has been that way since the line opened. Trains are packed during rush hour on the Green line between Norwalk and Imperial and then it runs practically empty between Imperial and Redondo. Employers in the El Segundo area as a rule of thumb, do not encourage their employees to take public transit. Employee parking is always free and plentiful.
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Post by TransportationZ on Oct 16, 2013 15:01:48 GMT -8
could the green line decline be due to employer closures or slowdowns in the el segundo area? I seem to recall hearing some of the big defense contractors were shifting HQ to DC? More likely there has been some shift in ridership patterns since the Expo line opened. Even with lost of some jobs in the area (I don't think there is any significant change but let's assume there is), it wouldn't have much impact on ridership. The El Segundo segment of the Green line (from Imperial station to Redondo Station) has abysmal ridership, has been that way since the line opened. Trains are packed during rush hour on the Green line between Norwalk and Imperial and then it runs practically empty between Imperial and Redondo. Employers in the El Segundo area as a rule of thumb, do not encourage their employees to take public transit. Employee parking is always free and plentiful. Wait, I thought it was the Aviation to Norwalk segment that had the ridership. Aviation to Redondo trains are mostly empty. There's quite a bit of people connecting to buses on Crenshaw, Western and Vermont.
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Post by masonite on Oct 17, 2013 13:26:17 GMT -8
Looks like Expo ridership was pretty flat with last month. A little over 27k. Total rail ridership is over 370,000 though, which is pretty impressive. Red/Purple Line continue to shine with nearly 170,000 riders.
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Post by bzcat on Oct 17, 2013 16:05:01 GMT -8
More likely there has been some shift in ridership patterns since the Expo line opened. Even with lost of some jobs in the area (I don't think there is any significant change but let's assume there is), it wouldn't have much impact on ridership. The El Segundo segment of the Green line (from Imperial station to Redondo Station) has abysmal ridership, has been that way since the line opened. Trains are packed during rush hour on the Green line between Norwalk and Imperial and then it runs practically empty between Imperial and Redondo. Employers in the El Segundo area as a rule of thumb, do not encourage their employees to take public transit. Employee parking is always free and plentiful. Wait, I thought it was the Aviation to Norwalk segment that had the ridership. Aviation to Redondo trains are mostly empty. There's quite a bit of people connecting to buses on Crenshaw, Western and Vermont. That's what I said... full trains from Norwalk to Imperial/Aviation. Empty trains from Imperial/Aviation to Redondo.
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Post by TransportationZ on Oct 19, 2013 5:57:19 GMT -8
Wait, I thought it was the Aviation to Norwalk segment that had the ridership. Aviation to Redondo trains are mostly empty. There's quite a bit of people connecting to buses on Crenshaw, Western and Vermont. That's what I said... full trains from Norwalk to Imperial/Aviation. Empty trains from Imperial/Aviation to Redondo. Sorry, grew up riding both Blue and Green Lines to get to my Grandmothers house when I was younger after school. Imperial/Wilmington was always referred to as the "Imperial" station by daily riders. Aviation/LAX was called .....Aviation station.
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