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Post by Elson on Mar 16, 2007 0:52:31 GMT -8
There's a serious lack of benches in the subway stations. The few benches are occupied, so people sit on stairways (the fire marshal would take issue with that) and many just sit on the floor (that's inexcusable).
Maybe people might as well sit on the edge of the platform.
Why has Metro not addressed the problem of a lack of seating areas in the stations?
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Post by bluelineshawn on Mar 16, 2007 6:52:17 GMT -8
Maybe people might as well sit on the edge of the platform.
LOL. I've actually seen people doing that before!
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Post by LAofAnaheim on Mar 16, 2007 9:31:36 GMT -8
Hmm....isn't this a common problem on all metro systems throughout the world? Why should L.A. treat this any differently?
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Post by Elson on Mar 16, 2007 9:45:01 GMT -8
Hmm....isn't this a common problem on all metro systems throughout the world? Why should L.A. treat this any differently? Because perhaps they underestimated the number of riders or people looking for a place to sit? Because perhaps they wrongly assume a 6-15 minute wait is "good enough" to not warrant people needing to sit down? Because sitting in stairways is not safe and sitting on the floor is not sanitary? Because there is ample space for more benches in the stations? Metro has hosted at least two meetings with The Transit Coalition regarding rail rider satisfaction. I'm surprised NO ONE brought this up! |
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Post by LAofAnaheim on Mar 16, 2007 13:57:03 GMT -8
Have you ever been to New York, Chicago, London, Boston, etc... and used their transit systems elson? It's the same problem. Basically, there is no solution. People will sit on stairwells, have long waits (wait for trains when one only line is present, its the same situation as in LA metro), benches will be used, etc...
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Post by Elson on Mar 16, 2007 16:12:24 GMT -8
Have you ever been to New York, Chicago, London, Boston, etc... and used their transit systems elson? It's the same problem. Basically, there is no solution. People will sit on stairwells, have long waits (wait for trains when one only line is present, its the same situation as in LA metro), benches will be used, etc... Yes, in fact I have ridden all of the above. I might also add that Chicago's system had the shortest waits of any transit system I've ridden on - so short there was no need to sit, and I've been on many in North America, Europe and Asia. In many cases there is no more room for benches, which is a legitimate excuse. But we have lots of room in our platforms for more benches. |
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Post by fredcamino on Mar 27, 2007 7:24:28 GMT -8
Have you ever been to New York, Chicago, London, Boston, etc... and used their transit systems elson? It's the same problem. Basically, there is no solution. People will sit on stairwells, have long waits (wait for trains when one only line is present, its the same situation as in LA metro), benches will be used, etc... There is no solution? How about install some more benches? Our stations have plenty of room. Seems like a pretty simple solution to me... |
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Post by Elson on Mar 27, 2007 11:21:23 GMT -8
Have you ever been to New York, Chicago, London, Boston, etc... and used their transit systems elson? It's the same problem. Basically, there is no solution. People will sit on stairwells, have long waits (wait for trains when one only line is present, its the same situation as in LA metro), benches will be used, etc... There is no solution? How about install some more benches? Our stations have plenty of room. Seems like a pretty simple solution to me... Thank you. I'm not asking for "a bench for every rider," just some more benches because the two that they have at each station is seriously inadequate. |
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Post by wad on Mar 28, 2007 23:42:59 GMT -8
For a long time, 7th Street/Metro Center did not have any seats. It was only about five years ago when those cubes were installed.
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Post by norm on Mar 29, 2007 10:16:43 GMT -8
This is just a guess, but doesn't it have something to do with the homeless population and use of benches as sleeping spots?
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Post by bluelineshawn on Mar 29, 2007 12:19:14 GMT -8
This is just a guess, but doesn't it have something to do with the homeless population and use of benches as sleeping spots? Probably. But the homeless could just as easily sleep on the trains as in the stations. In fact that seems like what they usually do. I guess people give them leftover day passes and they're set for the day. Maybe they don't even need that as I've seen the fare inspectors sometimes skip asking homeless riders for their tickets. I wasn't sure if it was because they had already asked them earlier in the day or if they thought it would be a waste of time. |
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Post by Elson on Mar 31, 2007 13:09:17 GMT -8
This is just a guess, but doesn't it have something to do with the homeless population and use of benches as sleeping spots? I never see the homeless sleep in Metro stations, whether on benches or on the floor, so this is not an issue. |
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Post by erict on Mar 31, 2007 16:26:04 GMT -8
I have seen the homeless sleeping on the plank benches, but not that often. I think the MTA correctly designed these benches for those waiting for the train - not for comfort. If they made plush benches --- I think you can imagine the results. I recently saw a man tap dancing at the Civic Center station from one end of the station to the other.
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Post by wad on Mar 31, 2007 23:48:15 GMT -8
I recently saw a man tap dancing at the Civic Center station from one end of the station to the other. And did it take Metro eight hours to get wise of the situation?  |
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Post by wad on Mar 31, 2007 23:50:18 GMT -8
I wasn't sure if it was because they had already asked them earlier in the day or if they thought it would be a waste of time. They're most likely worried about the blowback and/or ACLU lawsuits resulting from a citation. |
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Post by Elson on Apr 1, 2007 1:46:21 GMT -8
I wasn't sure if it was because they had already asked them earlier in the day or if they thought it would be a waste of time. They're most likely worried about the blowback and/or ACLU lawsuits resulting from a citation. Because jail isn't really much of a punishment to them...they get free food and shelter. |
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