Post by LAofAnaheim on Oct 16, 2007 8:05:11 GMT -8
How about a new station on the Red/Purple line? City West is going through a residential boom with 1100, 1010, Glo, Medici, Vero, Bixel Court, etc... Also, the hospital there is planning on a large expansion to serve the new downtown residents. However, there is a huge gap between 7th Street/Metro & MacArthur Park/Westlake station. I don't know the distance, but it seems like at least 1.5 miles. City West is right in the middle. I would think a new station at Wilshire/Bixel or Wilshire/Union would be ideal. Since no tunneling is involved and it's just a new station, I don't think we have to worry about Zev's law or Waxman's law.
For now the Wilshire Rapid Bus will have to do. There isn't enough density in that area. Most buildings are only 5 stories (Except for 1100, but that's actually within walking distance of 7th/metro). In the future, if a big developer builds something huge there, a subway station would be a terrific idea, especially if it can serve students to the new high schools in the area. But I don't see the demand just yet.
Post by LAofAnaheim on Oct 16, 2007 10:01:56 GMT -8
The problem with the Wilshire Rapid Bus (720) is that it doesn't come to Union Station. A lot of people who use Metrolink would find hopping on a DASH to 7th street/Metro to ride the subway to Union Station and then hopping onto Metrolink a little inconvenient. Plus, think about the reverse.
Post by bluelineshawn on Oct 16, 2007 10:23:52 GMT -8
How could a new station be built with no tunneling? What would we do just shut down the red and purple lines for a year during construction? It seems like the station would have to be built adjacent to the existing tunnels and then new tunnels built to reroute the lines to the new station.
Post by whitmanlam on Oct 16, 2007 10:55:29 GMT -8
Redline Stations are HUGE, cavernous places. They require alot of soil movement and thousands of tons of concrete and steel. Plus you need to find a decent size parking lot above to convert to a station. I used to go there for back therapy. I would take the Redline from Union Station to Pershing Square , and then ride the Wilshire Rapid to my destination. During the day, the transition is efficient and barely noticeable if the buses run regularly.
In the early 1990s the Downtown News mentioned that an additional station could be built at Witmer to serve the then-commercial City West area. Who knew it would all be mostly residences now?
I personally would rather see a DASH serve 7MC from there and spend that money building another station on the Purple Line on Wilshire going west instead. Witmer is also not that far of a walk from 7MC.
Post by bluelineshawn on Oct 16, 2007 13:51:44 GMT -8
Redline Stations are HUGE, cavernous places. They require alot of soil movement and thousands of tons of concrete and steel. Plus you need to find a decent size parking lot above to convert to a station...
Post by LAofAnaheim on Oct 16, 2007 14:44:18 GMT -8
I'm not forgetting about 7th Street metro. I'm thinking about all the development on City West should be complemented by a station. The new developments are not really that close to 7th Street station. The distance between 7th street Metro & Westlake station is 1.3 miles, whereas 7th street Metro & Pershing Square is .7 miles. A station at Wilshire/Witmer would be .5 miles from 7th Street Metro and give great convenience to the thousands of residences now living in City West (and the many more to follow). It would really aide for development and allow development expand further west onto Wilshire.
Wow, 1.3 miles is a long distance between subway stations. Especially for stations in the city. Does any other city have subway stations this far in lengh, when the subway is in the city? I'd be interested to know.
Post by whitmanlam on Oct 16, 2007 17:49:41 GMT -8
A City West Station would be nice, if privately funded to some extent. The reality is, we're never going to have a subway station everywhere it's needed. Or on every major point of density. That's why we also need surface based transit, like more Rapid buses and a Downtown Streetcar.
A Streetcar could really be useful in places not accessible by subway like Broadway shopping district, Fashion District, and the Venice/ Santa Monica boardwalk area.