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Post by tonyw79sfv on Jun 3, 2009 20:05:02 GMT -8
www.thetonightshowwithconanobrien.com/tickets/directions.shtmlOne of the nice things about changing from Leno to Conan is also changing the venue where the show is taped; now The Tonight Show is accessible by Metro Rail and on their website they advised to use the Metro Red Line in their driving direction & parking page! (They really emphasize using the Red Line.) So like the days when you can take the MTA NYC Subway's BDFV lines to the Rock, the Metro Red Line will do the same here in L.A. to see Conan.
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Post by masonite on Jun 3, 2009 20:41:48 GMT -8
www.thetonightshowwithconanobrien.com/tickets/directions.shtmlOne of the nice things about changing from Leno to Conan is also changing the venue where the show is taped; now The Tonight Show is accessible by Metro Rail and on their website they advised to use the Metro Red Line in their driving direction & parking page! (They really emphasize using the Red Line.) So like the days when you can take the MTA NYC Subway's BDFV lines to the Rock, the Metro Red Line will do the same here in L.A. to see Conan. Nice. Unfortunately, this is almost never done in Los Angeles. In fact, even when a Metro station is close by it is pretty rare for a business or destination to put the fact that a metro station is accessible in their transportation directions. We really need to change this. Unfortunately, I think unless government really pushes this, we'll need a more comprehensive MetroRail system before this happens (500k - 600k riders minimum), which is years away.
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Post by bluelineshawn on Jun 3, 2009 21:16:31 GMT -8
It's not as rare as you might think. Most large businesses and hotels convenient to Metro mention Metro in their directions section nowadays. Take a look. LA Live/Staples/Nokia have lots of parking and even they mention Metro. I heard a radio ad for some event at LA Live and they mentioned Pico station and never even mentioned the 110 or 10 fwys. I can't recall what it was, but it was just a week or so ago.
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Post by masonite on Jun 3, 2009 21:40:25 GMT -8
It's not as rare as you might think. Most large businesses and hotels convenient to Metro mention Metro in their directions section nowadays. Take a look. LA Live/Staples/Nokia have lots of parking and even they mention Metro. I heard a radio ad for some event at LA Live and they mentioned Pico station and never even mentioned the 110 or 10 fwys. I can't recall what it was, but it was just a week or so ago. Well maybe this is changing then. It has been a long while since I worked downtown. Back then I worked a block from the Pershing Square station and met people who didn't even know there was a subway near our building. Some more signage pointing to metro stations for pedestrians would be an important addition. This city is still not oriented enough to pedestrians. As far as Staples and LA Live, they got taxpayer subsidies to some degree, so I would expect them to do this although it is very good to see them being good citizens but it is also good business as well.
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Post by bluelineshawn on Jun 3, 2009 22:12:22 GMT -8
I guess it depends on your definition of subsidy. Unless I'm mistaken, no taxpayer money was used to build Staples or LA Live. My understanding was that they got land for building Staples and that the city hotel tax will be delayed for a few years for the LA Live hotel. So the city is missing out on tax money, but they would be missing it if the hotel weren't built as well. But in the end the increase in conventions will make the city money, so it's not like taxpayers are being burdened. Quite the opposite.
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Post by spokker on Jun 3, 2009 22:55:44 GMT -8
Jimmy Kimmel once used the Red Line in one bit. I hope Conan finds a use for the subway as well.
That's two late night shows that are accessible by transit!
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Post by masonite on Jun 3, 2009 23:12:17 GMT -8
I guess it depends on your definition of subsidy. Unless I'm mistaken, no taxpayer money was used to build Staples or LA Live. My understanding was that they got land for building Staples and that the city hotel tax will be delayed for a few years for the LA Live hotel. So the city is missing out on tax money, but they would be missing it if the hotel weren't built as well. But in the end the increase in conventions will make the city money, so it's not like taxpayers are being burdened. Quite the opposite. Yes, I agree. Actually, I supported both projects as Staples Center and related development like LA Live have been a huge positive for Los Angeles. We now have a Convention Center that is not an embarrasment and hopefully not a perennial money loser as well. Subsidy was probably too strong a word as the government assistance was pretty minimal, but the public was involved was my overall point.
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Post by metrocenter on Sept 15, 2009 15:43:51 GMT -8
I just got tix to Conan. It contains the following arrival info. Red color added by me.
"The Tonight Show Studio is located on the Universal Lot. The pedestrian entrance to our audience line is located at Gate 3 of Universal Studios. Please be aware, there is NO PARKING AVAILABLE AT GATE 3. Parking in the area is limited. We strongly recommend taking the Metro Red Line and getting off at the Universal City Stop. Paid parking options ($10 per car with Tonight Show ticket stub) are listed on our website NBC.com/Conan. Please check there for more information. "
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Post by nicksantangelo on Nov 11, 2009 17:26:18 GMT -8
Ii took me nearly a year to get Disney to even acknowledge the Hollywood/Highland station on their website for the El Capitan. Absolutely appalling when you realize the station is directly across the street. When I was a member of the Cinematheque (The Egyptian), i suggested a mention as well. The old yellow pages in the LAPL show many, many ads that refer the the streetcar line adjacent to the business advertising.
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Post by Philip on Nov 16, 2009 22:30:02 GMT -8
I was at a taping of Conan today and he talks about the subways and the new Eastside Gold Line in the monologue. Be sure to check it out!
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Post by spokker on Nov 16, 2009 22:52:57 GMT -8
Well, what did he say?
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Post by whitmanlam on Nov 17, 2009 3:32:21 GMT -8
Unfortunately, the Red Line is too far downhill from the Universal Lot and Universal Citywalk. After 7 PM the shuttle tram stops running and people are stranded. Even during the day, most people would object to transferring to a tram.
Fortunately, they are planning to develop the area around the station to build the Universal mega development. Building around transit. Now that is an idea long overdue.
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Post by Jason Saunders on Nov 17, 2009 8:11:00 GMT -8
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Post by metrocenter on Nov 17, 2009 12:01:37 GMT -8
Unfortunately, the Red Line is too far downhill from the Universal Lot and Universal Citywalk. True. But the station is definitely not too far from the Conan stage: it's directly across the street.
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Post by metrocenter on Nov 17, 2009 12:04:52 GMT -8
"This now means 5 subway lines, and 4 subway riders." haha
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Post by spokker on Nov 17, 2009 13:52:07 GMT -8
Funny but cliched joke. If it makes you feel any better Comcast is going to buy up that whole network and shake things up at NBC, probably by moving Leno back to 11:30
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Post by davebowman on Nov 17, 2009 16:45:08 GMT -8
Whenever I go mto a Kings game or Clippers game at Staples they run promotional ads for taking Metro to the game on the big video board, and show people using the Pico station.
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Post by spokker on Nov 17, 2009 18:43:08 GMT -8
Alternate joke: That means 5 subway lines, 4 subway riders, and 3 Tonight Show viewers.
NBC is getting beat by the FX Channel and Nightline.
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Post by tonyw79sfv on Nov 17, 2009 23:05:47 GMT -8
Well, Spongebob did better than Leno too, ratingswise. On the Tonight Show last night after the "5 subway lines" joke, Conan did ask the audience if they took the subway to get to the show.
Leno also jokes about the low amount of public transit riders in LA; but to be fair, he also jokes about the fact that nobody walks in LA. It's just that we can't shake off the stigma of LA being an auto-dominated city.
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Post by nicksantangelo on Nov 21, 2009 10:54:46 GMT -8
Ugh. This schtick really frosts me. Not only does it just play into stereotype reinforcement, it also makes our investment in transit ply like a national punchline. Happily, I heard lots of audience members respond to this question, though he dismissed them immediately.
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Post by warrenbowman on Nov 21, 2009 21:50:27 GMT -8
Funny but cliched joke. If it makes you feel any better Comcast is going to buy up that whole network and shake things up at NBC, probably by moving Leno back to 11:30 Considering that the current terms of the deal leave the current head of NBC, Jeff Zucker, in charge, I doubt that Leno is going back to 11:30. That would be admitting failure, which simply will not do. More likely they will try to find a way to keep Leno off another network, which was the whole point of giving him the 10PM slot. Either way, I guess we can't count on late night comedy monkeys to promote public transportation.
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Post by spokker on Nov 21, 2009 22:56:29 GMT -8
Ugh. This schtick really frosts me. Not only does it just play into stereotype reinforcement, it also makes our investment in transit ply like a national punchline. Happily, I heard lots of audience members respond to this question, though he dismissed them immediately. You do know that it's just a comedy show and the ratings are really dismal right?
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Post by wad on Nov 22, 2009 4:31:33 GMT -8
You do know that it's just a comedy show and the ratings are really dismal right? Imagine, L.A.'s transit ridership being higher than NBC's ratings!
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Post by bluelineshawn on Nov 22, 2009 9:49:39 GMT -8
His ratings aren't exactly "dismal". He's more or less tied with Late Night these days. The Tonight Show ratings tanked after Leno took over as well. It takes a while to build an audience.
I liked how he wasn't expecting so many audience members to cheer when he asked if they took the subway to get there. Sounded to me like quite a few did, which matches my experience when going to Universal Studios. People that go to The Tonight Show are mostly tourists and tourists do take the subway. He went on with the joke by saying that only two people clapped when obviously it was many more than that.
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Post by spokker on Nov 22, 2009 12:12:45 GMT -8
No, the ratings really are dismal, and not just for Conan. Putting Leno at 10PM was a disaster and it's taking down all of prime time and late night TV on NBC. Leno got beat by the FX Channel's Sons of Anarchy one night, which has never happened before. NBC affiliates that air news at 11PM have seen their ratings plummet too, and they are pissed. People who love and create TV dramas are pissed, because putting Leno on at 10PM killed 5 shows and even more jobs.
What's funny is that Leno himself said that he could not compete with a new episode of CSI, but that when CSI was in reruns, Jay would be "all-new." First reruns of CSI happened recently, and Leno was trounced.
It cannot be more of a disaster and not just because the shows are new and need time to build an audience. Conan had an audience. Leno had an audience. Where did they go?
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Post by Philip on Nov 22, 2009 14:26:41 GMT -8
He went on with the joke by saying that only two people clapped when obviously it was many more than that. I was one of them!
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Post by nicksantangelo on Nov 27, 2009 11:23:30 GMT -8
Spokker: its the thought/sentiment that counts, not how many viewers he brings in, IMHO. Conan also ragged on the LA River, again another easy and often maligned target. It's just hackneyed SCHTICK. Here I was thinking he was supposed to be appealing to a younger demographic. Not. And yes, I know the show strives to be 'comedy.' I admit I'm hyper-sensitive to this stuff.
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Post by tonyw79sfv on Dec 5, 2009 13:52:27 GMT -8
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