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Post by bzcat on Jun 30, 2011 13:24:50 GMT -8
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Post by simonla on Aug 14, 2011 16:47:38 GMT -8
I was riding the Purple Line this weekend and wondered how far west does the current tunnel go? Obviously it continues at least a little bit west from the Western station--but how long? Just curious as to what kind of head start the construction team has on their way to La Brea. Thanks!
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Post by Justin Walker on Sept 16, 2011 21:47:49 GMT -8
I was riding the Purple Line this weekend and wondered how far west does the current tunnel go? Obviously it continues at least a little bit west from the Western station--but how long? Just curious as to what kind of head start the construction team has on their way to La Brea. Thanks! I knew that the Wilshire/Western station did not have tail tracks west of the station but was also curious exactly just how far the tracks extended. A quick visit with some ranging equipment showed the front edge of the bumping post to be 70 feet beyond the end of the platform and the concrete wall to be 90 feet beyond the end of the platform. See photo:  Construction of the Westside Subway Extension will certainly be more difficult to begin here than if tail tracks were in place. |
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Post by erict on Sept 17, 2011 6:01:10 GMT -8
I think they may have to close the Western station initially to expand the line and use the dreaded bus bridge. I wonder where the staging area will be located?
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Post by LAofAnaheim on Sept 17, 2011 7:52:51 GMT -8
I think they may have to close the Western station initially to expand the line and use the dreaded bus bridge. I wonder where the staging area will be located? Haha...that's a simple bus bridge..the 720 Rapid! Already fills the need! (but, will be a little more crowded!) |
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Post by James Fujita on Sept 17, 2011 16:17:33 GMT -8
I think they may have to close the Western station initially to expand the line and use the dreaded bus bridge. I wonder where the staging area will be located? Haha...that's a simple bus bridge..the 720 Rapid! Already fills the need! (but, will be a little more crowded!) don't tell the Bus Riders Union: "Subway construction outside BRU headquarters causes buses to be more crowded" ;D |
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Post by bzcat on Oct 3, 2011 13:20:17 GMT -8
I think the DEIR had said the construction staging for the first MOS will be at the Crenshaw site (where the optional station is located) owned by Metro. That implies the tunnel machines will be buried at this location and work its way east towards Western.
The construction staging site for the 2nd MOS will be at the Metro customer service center on La Cienega.
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Post by simonla on Oct 3, 2011 17:22:14 GMT -8
Do you mean La Brea?
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Post by bzcat on Oct 4, 2011 10:31:24 GMT -8
Yes, I mean La Brea, as the staging site for MOS2  Thanks for the correction |
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Post by thanks4goingmetro on Oct 6, 2011 11:06:46 GMT -8
I wonder how far the tracks go beyond Wilshire/Western, no interruption of service may be needed. I thought the EIR called for the TBMs to be loaded at Wilshire/Crenshaw when I read it, and they would bored from the capped tail tracks going west.
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Post by thanks4goingmetro on Oct 7, 2011 14:13:13 GMT -8
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Post by James Fujita on Oct 7, 2011 15:42:53 GMT -8
I'm definitely voting for the May Co. LACMA West station entrance. The best thing is, the entrance is designed to let people walk to the sidewalk or straight from the station into the museum. (Or from the sidewalk into the museum, bypassing the station stairs)
I was worried at first glance that it was just set into the building without any actual links to it (like some other Metro Rail stations I could mention), but the illustrations clearly show doors leading into the building, from the "indoor plaza" area that the station would occupy.
And they do it without messing (too much) with the historic design.
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Post by matthewb on Oct 8, 2011 0:48:53 GMT -8
What's happening with the curb? Is that a separated bike lane? Also, nice to know that only 40-50 year old white people will use the station. |
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Post by James Fujita on Oct 8, 2011 17:17:11 GMT -8
Well, one illustration is hardly indicative of ridership numbers or statistics ;D
However, it is worth pointing out that that station entrance will also be a main entrance for LACMA West, which will be the Motion Picture Academy museum by the time the Purple Line opens.
If you enter and head to the left, you'll be at the Purple Line. If you enter and head straight in, you'll be at the museum. Therefore, some of those people could be museum visitors.
Museum attendance, for whatever racial, ethnic, cultural or economic reasons, tends to skew richer, whiter and older, with Asians also up there. I suppose the guy off to the left could be Asian, but I don't know.
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Post by carter on Oct 16, 2011 15:29:04 GMT -8
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Post by metrocenter on Oct 17, 2011 7:51:31 GMT -8
^ I just got the email. So I guess we should expect to find out which way Metro is leaning, with respect to Century City station.
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Post by K 22 on Oct 18, 2011 6:52:56 GMT -8
That Fairfax station render looks really nice and low-key - but not to the point where it's not noticeable. More station entrances should be designed like this, in my opinion.
Hopefully, things don't get too ugly with this oral report. It's going to be the "wrong answer" no matter what.
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Post by jdrcrasher on Oct 18, 2011 18:33:19 GMT -8
Please Metro... don't disappoint us and appease the NIMBYs...
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Post by LAofAnaheim on Oct 19, 2011 13:00:53 GMT -8
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Post by metrocenter on Oct 19, 2011 13:33:46 GMT -8
Reading the presentations now, they are located here and here. |
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Post by metrocenter on Oct 19, 2011 13:39:00 GMT -8
Looks to me like Beverly Hills just got pwnd! Constellation station has been recommended. Metro plans to tunnel under the high school. As it should be. I think the following is the key quote: "The Project is not expected to pose new threats to the students, faculty, or community as a result of its construction and operation." LOL, NIMBYs lose! High-priced lawyers win! |
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Post by James Fujita on Oct 19, 2011 14:21:16 GMT -8
so, how soon before they sue for emotional distress caused by subway construction?  |
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Post by metrocenter on Oct 19, 2011 15:03:42 GMT -8
From Curbed.LA: "No evidence of faulting was found on the proposed Constellation Boulevard Station site. Based on the results of these fault investigations, there is clear evidence that the proposed station locations on Santa Monica Boulevard (both east and west) would be in active fault zones, and are not viable options for station locations," according to the scientists' report (people who compiled the information include Dr. James Dolan of USC and Dr. Lucy Jones of the U.S. Geological Survey and the California Institute of Technology). "The proposed station on Constellation Boulevard would not be within an active fault zone." |
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Post by masonite on Oct 19, 2011 15:31:32 GMT -8
From Curbed.LA: "No evidence of faulting was found on the proposed Constellation Boulevard Station site. Based on the results of these fault investigations, there is clear evidence that the proposed station locations on Santa Monica Boulevard (both east and west) would be in active fault zones, and are not viable options for station locations," according to the scientists' report (people who compiled the information include Dr. James Dolan of USC and Dr. Lucy Jones of the U.S. Geological Survey and the California Institute of Technology). "The proposed station on Constellation Boulevard would not be within an active fault zone." That is pretty definitive and makes it seem a Santa Monica Blvd. station location is all but impossible for the Metro Board to recommend. Also, key in the presentation was the finding that there would be no impairment of Beverly Hills High School's plans to renovate their property or develop an underground parking garage at the site. It doesn't affect the school's ability to provide an emergency shelter at the school and would only go under a portion of Building B at the school. Beverly Hills will spin it that the scientists were biased by the MTA and will surely still sue, but they look silly now. Remember at first, the subway was a terrorist threat and then it was a land grab that would constrict their ability to renovate the campus. Now that that is not true, what next? They made their earlier assertions with no facts and no real analysis. |
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Post by rubbertoe on Oct 19, 2011 16:01:48 GMT -8
Well, here is the first shot. Before they even try to spin it that the experts don't know what they are doing, they are trying to spin it that Metro sat on the study results too long, since the conclusion is that the whole area is in grave danger. Maybe they will try and use the study to stop all construction in the area, not just the subway...
BEVERLY HILLS, Calif., Oct. 19, 2011 /PRNewswire/ -- Beverly Hills Unified School District (BHUSD) President Lisa Korbatov today issued the following statement in response to media inquiries related to a seismic report presented by the Los Angeles County Metropolitan Transportation Authority (Metro):
With its seismic data presentation, Metro has opened a veritable Pandora's Box that potentially impacts many dozens of existing buildings and future projects in the region, including Beverly Hills High School, future station locations for the Westside Subway Extension as well as currently entitled development projects. It is unfathomable that Metro has had this important seismic data available for such a long time without providing it to the BHUSD or other interested parties in the purported earthquake zone.
Much of the data presented today has been available for almost a year. The fact that Metro held it for so long poses many questions that Metro cannot answer. If the fault is so dangerous, the information should have been more forthcoming. We urge Metro to fully disclose all of the data as soon as possible. Our independent experts will immediately begin evaluating the findings and will weigh in as this process moves forward.
SOURCE Beverly Hills Unified School District
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Post by rubbertoe on Oct 19, 2011 16:08:53 GMT -8
As a follow-up, I have to say that I'm happy to see that the seismic results turned out to point to choosing the Constellation Station. That was by far the best choice all along. One step closer to construction start |
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Post by dane on Oct 19, 2011 16:11:02 GMT -8
Ha! Maybe now some BH residents can sue the school district for construction and development without proper due diligence...after all, BHUSD surely studied this before proceeding, right?
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Post by LAofAnaheim on Oct 19, 2011 16:39:04 GMT -8
Well, here is the first shot. Before they even try to spin it that the experts don't know what they are doing, they are trying to spin it that Metro sat on the study results too long, since the conclusion is that the whole area is in grave danger. Maybe they will try and use the study to stop all construction in the area, not just the subway... BEVERLY HILLS, Calif., Oct. 19, 2011 /PRNewswire/ -- Beverly Hills Unified School District (BHUSD) President Lisa Korbatov today issued the following statement in response to media inquiries related to a seismic report presented by the Los Angeles County Metropolitan Transportation Authority (Metro):
With its seismic data presentation, Metro has opened a veritable Pandora's Box that potentially impacts many dozens of existing buildings and future projects in the region, including Beverly Hills High School, future station locations for the Westside Subway Extension as well as currently entitled development projects. It is unfathomable that Metro has had this important seismic data available for such a long time without providing it to the BHUSD or other interested parties in the purported earthquake zone.
Much of the data presented today has been available for almost a year. The fact that Metro held it for so long poses many questions that Metro cannot answer. If the fault is so dangerous, the information should have been more forthcoming. We urge Metro to fully disclose all of the data as soon as possible. Our independent experts will immediately begin evaluating the findings and will weigh in as this process moves forward.
SOURCE Beverly Hills Unified School DistrictOh Lisa...you lost this court case regarding disclosure of information while in pending review: thesource.metro.net/2011/09/16/court-rules-in-favor-of-metro-in-westside-subway-extension-case/That was conveniently not mentioned in your response......... |
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Post by erict on Oct 19, 2011 19:14:20 GMT -8
This battle will shape the future of Los Angeles, we cannot lose against Beverly Hills (again).
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Post by metrocenter on Oct 20, 2011 8:45:34 GMT -8
Given the locations of the faults (including one directly under the school), it seems there is really just one sensible thing for BHUSD to do: relocate the high school.
It is clear from the study: the earthquake faults pose far more of a threat to the school than a static, reinforced subway tunnel does.
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